I mean, they’ve had really inaccurate decals forever. Granted you can select semi-historical and block it, but you could still make pink R3s for forever with historical decals. Nothing is ever going to be perfect. People will make dicks with an 8 and 0 no matter what you do. I guess my bar is lower than yours. (I do historical decals in historical patterns on all my vehicles as an FYI. I like the “realism” too.) But it’s a game. And the veneer of accuracy in both games is as good as I expect it to be in the world we live in.
Imo, just allowing players to play any map regardless of BR won’t turn Enlisted into fortnine/Vanguard/BF5. The current BR system isn’t Historically Accurate at all, we have D-day on BR I and most of the weapons in game weren’t really used that much (especially for Japan). Enlisted is a game, and there are compromises for being a game, this one (All maps for all BRs) is one of them.
The game isn’t going back to the campain sytem, but that doesn’t mean it will become Fortinite. Imo, most of these complains can be resolved with map picking for each BR. This way everyone can play however they want.
What we should do though, as HA defenders/enjoyers is fight to keep the setting. Anime isn’t ww2, Potman isn’t ww2, that’s what we shoud be agains’t and that’s what I belive people are the most worried about. We should fight for THESE things to not be in the game.
I too would hate to see undead, fire eyes, anime, dragon skins in the game, or a sawed off PPSH41 with a scope, but if this was to happen in the future (I don’t think it will), it would certainly be because people buy them, or some other reason, not because of this (all maps for all BRs) or the merge.
Seeing jets in Stalingrad is terrible, I agree, that’s why we should also fight for map picking (preferably picking maps for each individual BR) as soon as this update comes out, so we can play according to history, while others can have their fun as well.
Hey, don’t give them ideas please.
I agree that with this BR change Enlisted will not be instantly doomed, but will alienate another important if small part of the playerbase, unless a preferred BR/preferred battles/preferred historical atmosphere setting is also released that prevents us from an unwelcome “Japanese vs. French guerrillas fighting in Berlin” scene this could deteriorate to in 3 years.
We are already halfway there:
Mad Hans Führer Road in gas mask and a sleeveless shirt running around with PPSh obrez alongside Volkssturm guerillas in fedoras and fur hats in Tunisia, as Pz IV J “Zombie” with Reindeer decal is rolling through to face Sherman “Zombie” with Halloween Devil decal, while Chinese troops are defending it alongside Free French partisans, as Ersatz M10 Panther appears in the desert only to be bombed by F80 Shooting Star.
This is already enough to give anyone remotely interested in WW2 a brain aneurysm.
I understand. The reason why the Soviet Union couldn’t defeat Germany in the early days was because the IS-2 tank in 1944 couldn’t compete with the mass-produced Tiger H tank. The German defeat in North Africa was due to the Me 262 not being able to compete with the Allied Meteor jet fighters LOL
Very, very good! Nice JOBS! My squad play all BR IV. We all really missed the maps from low BR. Please leave it permanently. I just want to balance the connection to the game so that the battles are more balanced, it often happens that we crush the opponent in a few minutes or, on the contrary, we get a solid and fast loading. Great work! Thanks.
In the context of unlinking maps from BRs, I wanted to know the answer to the question - how will the so-called “soft rule of historicity” work in the new map selection and will it work at all?
I already asked this question in a separate thread and suggested ways to improve the soft rule, but there was no answer.
This update has been one of my favorites. I love the Tunisia maps but I hate having to cripple myself with low level gear to play them.
Cant even complain about historical inaccuracy as many high level in game items WERE used in Tunisia.
Some equipment and squads appear on maps where they shouldn’t be.
So?
Hard to say. I observed this topic for few days. The likes are roughly equal.
Most of the complaints underneath and their likes are from those who like the hell no post.
Similar case for the one who like the change.
So I will say the reviews are mixed instead of overwhelmingly negative.
I think thats a fair assessment, I mean I for one aint happy with it, but would be fine meeting in the middle somewhere, and frankly I think that middle would appear perfectly as long as we get a very good map selection mechanic, not a shitty WT, but one like in TF2 or other such games, where you can pick the exact gamemode and map you want, you just have to wait longer if you narrow your criteria too much.
Ok played a few more games, if I can select BR4 preset and chose Tunisia I will be happy, to avoid the BRV stuff coming in, maybe a new soft rule if KT2 go elsewhere if enough players for other match…
As for map preference, it needs to be more than one map ideally, it needs to be multiple or campaign exclusion wide (so all maps), if we get two exclusions, and there is a conquest, bomb and confrontation that’s not going to work.
Map preference is done by campaign would satisfy HA enthusiasts and also allow people to play what they wanted ie Pre Merge, but this time with a little choice and presets to consider
Playing BR3 German mainly, but a few USA - the cringe of seeing OSU’s and Crusader tanks in Berlin or Normandy is real!
Have had mainly Berlin, a few Tunisia & Normandy, 1 or 2 Stalingrad and no Moscow.
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In the face of the negative people I need to make my voice heard too, playing maps outside of their usual BR has been really fun and I’m sad the test is ending. Hectic, high BR Tunisia has been a blast, being able to use my KV-2 in Moscow like god intended has been epic, and I really got to enjoy the Berlin maps more at a slower pace when I played some BR 1 and got Berlin. I’m gonna be sad when this test ends tomorrow. I hope the dev team sees that despite some very loud haters, there are plenty of us who love the un BR restricted maps.
They invented a matchmaking problem, they invented a balancing problem, they sold merge as a solution, and now the problem is real and they want to solve it. What they did is disrespectful, they offered a product in beta and now this mess. All of this could be solved by limiting the game to 2 or 3 campaigns per week in the old model, they ruined an innovative game by trying to replicate the Warthunder system, another game that started out very good… Started…
There are plenty of FPS WW2 games for people who don’t give a toss about history beyond their version of Warhammer being supposedly set in WW2
Thankfully Enlisted values fun over realism
But there were no MM issues before or what?
Yeah PPSh vs 20rd Beretta was balanced after all.
Merge aimed to merge playerbase together for population sakes which worked.
Not really.
Sounds like a dumber version of the already old dumb system.
This system existee before Enlisted but usually you dont split it across six mediocre to bad ones.