Yeah, I remember certain reddit post and associate group boasting the new BP format is 100% better than the old format and beneficial to the players. Still can’t believe people actually fell for those clowns.
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If memory serves, new maps have been the most desired addition to the game every time the topic is broached, uniting most of the player base, yet it seems to be a secondary priority. I assume they have received a great deal of pressure from above to prioritize other aspects of the game.
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Please keep it, I think it’s very interesting, it would be boring if all you could do was fly jets in Berlin, the game should be more entertaining
Spot on. Exactly.
Before I discovered Enlisted in 2020-21, I was mostly playing BFV, with some HLL, PS/S44, WT and even CoD 2/WaW/WW2 single player play throughs - I just like WW2 games.
But they all lacked something – some were too c
old, some too woke, some too hardcore.
Then I found Enlisted, and despite me never really caring about the bots mechanic (I will die on the hill saying 25x25 customs lone wolf Enlisted is its best version), I finally found a game that’s almost in the sweet spot.
Finally I was able to freely run around my native Russian countryside with a crappy early war PPD fighting against Germans with similarly crappy Pz 38 t.
Fighting in Berlin with crappy Volkssturm weapons against the Soviet late war steamroller, or enjoying Tunisian sun with Carcano and Lee Enfield.
Tbh after Enlisted’s top notch vehicle damage mechanics I just couldn’t take BFV seriously anymore where you can take down any tank with any caliber HE shells just if you shoot long enough.
I always felt that the campaigns system was not sustainable, and some sort of Merge had to happen.
But it happened by the lowest denominator.
The devs had all the time in the world to prepare but we still got water based planes in Ardennes and sandy Italian tanquettes near Moscow.
And after the Merge it’s only been getting worse, not better.
Now we’re basically becoming poor man’s BFV, exactly without anything much to offer.
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Well, why don’t you go play the BFV then?
Because in my opinion, that’s a completely ridiculous statement. BFV has a thousand times worse gunplay, the factions there are only customization based, there are no squads or complex vehicle gameplay.
BFV is far worse in gameplay than Enlisted. The only thing it is vastly superior in is the graphics and sound design.
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I think games should showcase and maintain their own characteristics, with squads that have existed in history for players to choose from and play.Restoring the real battlefield is the feature of Enlisted, isn’t it? Even the slogan says so, which is undoubtedly eye-catching in recent World War II themed games. But it has to be admitted that the current development direction of the game is on par with BFV and Call of Duty: Vanguard. But what are we playing this game for? Aren’t we all tired of the so-called ‘unknown World War II’?
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How many offer this type of squad system?
Not really unless you still believe their marketing in 2025, which at this point is your fault.
This game no longer has a history a long time ago, especially after Japan obtained tanks designed in 2017 and jet planes flew to Moscow. Every word “history” that appeared on the game’s promotional website was like a punch in the face of the developers.
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A all time low should give reason to improve - not make it worse!
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I have no clue what this introduction of maps to more BRs has changed in relation to HA.
Starting from the merge up until now, we could already see Volksturm stuff in Moscow or late war stuff in Stalingrad.
So can you tell me what is going to be so different from now on?
Literally nothing changes in this aspect. It’s not like maps are no longer going to be faction based.
It’s just that this change to map pool is being used by some individuals to try to push outdated concepts into the game that were thrown out long ago, specifically with the merge.
This discussion should be primarily about the quality of those maps that potentially can now be on all BRs. Or other side effects, like the fact that some squads will now be using customization presets that they didn’t use before due to their BR.
It shouldn’t be about pushing some outdated concepts that are no longer even being considered.
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Yep fully agree, although plz gib map select so I can deselect the stupid seelow hights and Hurtgen Forrest (the older one)
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I don’t know his motives, but in my case, it’s because… Enlisted still has the potential to be better than it is now, and its development is always downhill and uphill and you can’t say next update will improve or destroy stuff?
Even though the Jumbo entered Normandy, the grayzones were introduced the way they are, the BR settings have thrown out some important historical aspects and took away my chance to play mostly Tunisia and Moscow, and they removed the old lone fighter mode and replaced it with something that misses vital parts, it’s still a good game.
But.
Enlisted was a versatile war game engine. And still is. Just… Not heading in the direction I like.
- Not with zombies.
- Not with infinite Fedorovs and never widely used weaponry dominating the battlefield.
- Not with the amount of explosions it still has.
- Not with going the easy way and nerfing everything to useless levels instead of limiting them in creative ways.
- (Not with each and every step away from WW2 history? I assume, but unsure.)
- Not with custom games not gaining important filter features and proper webpage, and more time spent on banning
too curiousevil content creators than on custom content. - Not with the upgrade points still not highlighted after 3 years so I need to kill my eyes looking for those f.king upgrade points. Really, orange color please, or keep the potential squads on top of the upgrade list maybe?
Now that I complain, I also don’t like the 20 000 score limit or the 50 vehicle kills task, they are too much for me. But I enjoy 70% of the matches so it’s not that bad, especially for a free game. And I had no problem with playing BR II in Berlin, and once I can tell the game engine to focus on Tunisia instead if possible, I’ll be okay with this BR map extension. (The way they implement map preferences will probably be broken as they did not share any screenshots about their plans, so my expectations are low.)
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To turn my comment into a constructive rant, e.g. instead of reducing AP mines so much that you can sprint over them and stay alive they could have implemented it so that
- once you place enough AP mines, from the 4th mine you placed, your soldiers forget your mines so they become dangerous to your own squad beside the enemy team, so you need to be careful as well
- and only AT guys, engies and guerillas are okay to place them?
Well because this is what I enjoyed in Enlisted:
And BFV has 0 eastern front.
Also, I can’t stand everyone looking like a clown and using weapons from wrong factions and timelines, especially not crouch sliding Japanese girls with gold-plated night vision M2 Carbine in Norwegian mountains.
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Almost all of your points existed since OBT, partially even before.
They would have to refund a LOT of SL and gold for that one. I have many many squads with mines on each soldier. I know I’m not the only one. I only bought all those mines because they can go on each soldier. I would feel cheated if they got rid of 90% of the soldiers I bought all those mines for. I get what you are going for though.
Some people have trouble letting go. I can’t believe we are STILL listening to HA rants when this game is far more accurate then basically all arcade shooters. Sure games like HLL and Post Scriptum are more “accurate” but those games are aiming for a different demographic and are much less popular than arcade shooters.
I also think people are being a little too narrow minded. There is a touch of “alternate history” to all of these games. Tiger II in Tunisia? What if Germany defeated Russia in 1941 (it could have happened with a different focus of the offensive. Not likely, but possible) Tiger II’s in North Africa is a legit possibility. All of these maps work “accurately” with all of these weapons because if you run a simulation of World War 2 a million times all of them are possible. Isn’t that part of the fun? This game is still NOTHING like BF V. And it isn’t remotely heading in that direction. These changes are all still in keeping with the aesthetic and “accuracy” rules that have been set down of the years of the OBT.
Finally, I will reiterate, again, my map feedback.
I LOVE playing Tier II in Berlin. I only played one Tier V match in Tunisia and it was cool. But I haven’t gotten gray zone camped by a Tiger II or Pershing. Still I think this is a problem even at BR III. The answer, to me, is the same. Bomb them. A lot harder to hide from planes in Tunisia.
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I disagree if you mean the start of OBT. But this is not the thread for that, will respond in private if you’re willing to discuss it. (No zombies, no Fedorovs, no 4x explosives per soldier, no continuous arty, no 5 bombers carpet bombing, no gray zone early on as far as I remember, but there were other issues much worse as well.)
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While we jumped on the moon not even one year after the OBT release…
No, only Madsen machine guns the Soviets barely if ever used in WW2 or ZH rifles that were at best used by the Waffen SS (and certainly not in Moscow), M2 Carbines and FGs that were definitely not mass issued or British guns for American troops etc. or my favourite the M30 Drilling which was only issued to pilots in North Africa but could be used across three campaigns where two were not Africa and none of the users were pilots.
Totally different for sure…
Because I guess the grenade pouch never existed… oh wait… they existed since at least 2021. And the reason why explosion packs were nerfed was because people spammed them like crazy,
Dude, back in the old days everyone could call artillery at the same with the entire map being covered in red circles…
Those useless bombers only morons call and block team artillery for several minutes? Most broken shit ever.
Major changes were the initial spawn protection timer.
I have been trying out the new map situation as well, the problem is that the test is too short, it takes around a month I’d say for experienced players to adjust completely to the rhythm of these maps at new battle ratings. Once the majority of the player base is acclimated, I don’t think there will be much of an issue, except for maybe Tunisia, though I wasn’t experiencing difficulty.
I definitely disagree with you on the direction the game is going. War Thunder started as a serious experience, it now releases anime body pillows for tanks, the same fate will almost certainly befall Enlisted, the same people are in charge and seem to be at this point adopting a similar approach to their other titles.
If Dark Flow releases a serious form of map selection, meeting people like me halfway, I’d find all of this somewhat more tolerable. The nonsense might be occurring but at least I could pretend it isn’t. A realism mode down the line would be even better, but they have never answered requests for such a mode, so far as I know.
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