As for now you a direct hit to kill infantry. It is not realistic that all troops survive when you fire a HE round into a room fulll of them.
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Yeah, they’re totally broken. Even 45mm and 50mm do basically nothing splash wise. Why even have HE if it’s going to be this useless?
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This is completely true. HE seems broken and even AP, AP-HE, etc, do less splash damage than they should, like if my AP lands right next to a guys foot he should die not walk off unscathed.
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The M8 Scott has gorgeous land mines .
are you using the starting tanks?
Nope.
was talking to OP but the 75mm howitzer is much better for HE slinging than the 45mm of the bt-7
Sure, but currently HE below 75mm does nothing whatsoever. Which isn’t correct.
you also have to factor in that lower velocity guns have better HE fillings as well, and again smaller guns weren’t used with HE much. that is also the reason why howitzers are 105s or 150 in caliber with low than average velocity
Yes, yes, but that’s not the point. We have HE shells which literally do no damage unless a direct hit is achieved. That is broken.
For reference, the 45mm 20-K should be firing UO-243, which should have between 118-135g of explosive filler. For reference, the Soviet F1 hand grenade contained 60g. Guess which one is more lethal in Enlisted?
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Good comparison. I’d like to see them increased to actual values as well.
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Thank you. It’s even worse when you consider that the American Mk 2 “Pineapple” grenade has less than the F1, at a mere 52g!
ah ok, i didn’t know the gram fillers for the HE and frags
also apparently the m3 37mm only had 39 of explosives at most so that being weaker than frag makes sense
That is also not true.
The small caliber HE has very little filling, and it is easy to miss by too far, esp[ecially if hte target is on flat terrain in the open - machine guns are much better for that.
But if your target has a wall next to them then you get spash damage because you can guarantee the HE will explode on the wall - you can kill 2-3-4 or more even with the Stuart 37mm if you shoot into a crowded building.
The grenade will usualy be seen to do more damage because it is much easier to land it next to a target - you are already close, you know it will always land on hte ground nearby, and you are usually using it where you expect there to be a group of enemy.
The 45mm is much more lethal than the 37mm and can kill multiple enemy in a building - again you have to make sure it explodes next to them so shoot at walls, rocks and into bunkers - infantry standing in hte open should be engaged by machine guns.
Nope, nope, and nope. I am not some doe-eyed noob my friend, I spend most of my time tanking, and I know what I’m seeing. If given the choice, I would ditch all of my HE shells and take AP instead, they’re way more useful.
Yes, I am using the german 234/2 at the moment. Are the later ones better?
Most HE sucks, there’s something very wrong with the lethality calculations. I’m going to assume they’ve input the wrong numbers on each shell.
Also does tank HE or AP even destroy sandbags and wire fortifications? Doesn’t seem that way to me ???
Same. The 37mm HE are next to useless as i need two full shot of HE to kill someone, with a radius that is minuscule, making it very hard or even impossible to hit targets in cover or in buildings. You already are unable to destroy most buildings, so being completely unable to hit infantry inside reliably is not great.
The 37mm HE of the stuart would have a similar explosion to a hand grenade or a grenade launcher round. But it’s clearly nerfed to hell.