Why is it that the t34 76 cant be killed when in reality it could be front penned by a panzer 3 maybe the devs should stop using propoganda and 10 year old documentaries as sources
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no, no it couldn’t…
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50mm couldn’t pen it irl (only with the 100mm pen heat rounds you could), only long 75mm could pen it’s angled hull and that’s how it works in the game
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Armor angle is a thing, just as it was in real life.
If you hit one from a straight angle on the front, you are going to be trying to go through more armor that what the thickness reads due to angle.
The reason the panzerfaust gets through is because it is a lobbed shot. It hits at a different angle. Even as such though the launcher only releases a stream of gas to do damage, rather than a full explosion, so you still have to aim for crew or weakpoints.
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Because it couldn’t pen it was a large complaint by Panzer units as the Panzer III was supposes to be the main German tank meant to fight other tanks as the Panzer II and 38(t) were meant to engage light armor, enemy infantry and the Panzer IV and Stugs were originally meant to engage entrenched infantry and support friendly Infantry but the new T34 and KVs would become such a threat that rely the can be penned from the front by long 75s and 88s leading to the need to up gun the tanks
Flank it.
Joke aside, the pz4F2 is now a natural predator to the t34… providing you have a modicum of tanking know how.
If you don’t have the F2, use the tnt bundle, but throw it NOT near the tracks like for other tanks (doesn’t work well because reasons), but on TOP of the tank, just behind the turret. Guaranteed tank explosion.
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because just about %99.99 of people dont understand that steel is not just steel and that different hardness of steel exist and the system of metallurgical measurement that the soviets used was incredibly inconsistent and thus why some t34s would be kileld with a 50mm and others not
(this lasted untill 1943 were stalin oreder the use of all factorys to use the brinell, however this would not fully take effect untill 1944 )
but also the soviets peddled propaganda really well to sell the junk t34s after the war and so people think it was better then it is, kinda like modern russian crap
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Funny IRL 50mm short can cause spalling inside the tank which actually kills the crew inside the T34… is even funnier tha L29 75mm can even knockout the tank entirely due the shitty welding it has
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The parts that made it shit arent really represented in the game.
On the bright side I think you can still pen the t-34 through the turret cheek with the 50mm. Been a while since I tested.
I pretty much shoot here first anyway, regardless of what gun. Frontal hull shots are for HEAT or very large calibre (like 88s)
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we just need free stug III ausf g
what kind of propaganda did you use?
Even 37mm did pen T34s in the real world - not because it had enough penetration power to do so - but because of the same reason that Elefant Tank hunters and King Tigers got taken out by something as basic as a Sherman tank - poor quality steel.
Also for all of you keyboard warriors and Stalinium lovers.
I believe it was Finland that had their anti tank crew trained to shoot the T34s drivers hatch - contrary to what the game tells you it was actually a weak spot - not because its armor was weaker at that spot, but because the hinges that hold the hatch would break after receiving enough hits.
You don’t believe me? Than why would the later versions of the T34 as we have them in Berlin have a much thicker drivers hatch than its main armor?
Armor protection is never as great as people think, there are exceptions like that of Tiger tanks, but again this is due to it having basically 10 times the production cost of a regular tank and thus having received that highest quality steel available.
Early T34s had horrible production quality - something that got fixed as the war kept going.
Another example, the IS 2 tank was a great success, not because it was better than Germanys vehicles, but because it worked reliably and got the job done - something that Germanys late war tanks couldn’t achieve.
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Noob rant…
Guys, what he is saying is 100% true.
During tank production the steel is heat treated for better protection, but Soviets over heated their steel either due to incompetence or lack of proper tools which resulted in armour shattering/breaking.
This was sometimes so bad even the 37mm Pak36 could frontally knock out a T-34.
T-34s we have in games are paper performance tanks that didn’t exist during WW2, only later during the Cold War T-34s of the quality we have in the game were produced.
But Russians are crybabies and DF is a Russian company so T-34s will always over perform out of patriotism.
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Haha trust me we know
in the running for most over rated tank and worst tactical performance ever lol.
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the worst tank for situational awareness
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lol, pak36 was a meme AT gun even in its own time and jokingly called door knockers. By 1940 it was clear to both the Heer and the men using the guns that it’s incapable of knocking out anything better than light tanks. However 80% of enemy vehicles showing up won’t even be AFVs so they still had a role because they were cheap, widespread, light and reliable but weren’t expected to actually dent a T-34.
Yet it happened and the funny thing is that the shell didn’t even had penetrate the tank, hiting the T-34 a few a times was enough to cause its armour to splinter which killed the crew inside.
The armour was also prone to breaking in cold if hit in the same spot a few times.
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Pak 36 could be equipped with a shaped charge shell more than capable of going through T-34 armor. (This only had a short range though). I don’t know if this could be added to the game as a variation of the buildable Pak 36
Where does this information come from?