From memoirs and experience reports.
People hardly have reasons to fake information in these documents.
The shaped charge was mostly unsuccessful due to short range and frontal reload which was extremely dangerous due to the short range of the gun.
Im yet to read a document reporting the knock out of a tank by the said S.C.
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more details. Whose memories? even if you donât want to lie. when 20 years have passed, your memories will be inaccurate.
I read the report today. In which no tank was hit by a 37mm cannon in front.
I read about factory tests in 1940. They also could not penetrate the tank in front of the 37mm cannon.
but what grade steel were they using?
was it pressed? or cast?
What do you want to know? The T34 does not have a cast body in nature. And pressed, what is it?
Ah yes the famous soviet factory tests, if the state gave orders for it, they would have achieved the speed of light with nothing but a bt-7 with a Jumo 004 B strapped to it.
I understand that this is a matter of national pride but anyone who knows a thing about the impossible state requirements of stalinism understands that these documents were forged.
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Oh, my God. forged documents. just like these photos.
and what would you know. the tank did not pass these tests.
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I just w8 to see when this thread gets flagged and hidden XD
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A riveted tank could have better quality steel then a welded tank, that depends on materials, skill and tools available.
The grade of steel is significant, though that does not depend on wether a tank riveted (mostly Italian tanks) cast (typically early shermans) or welded (almost all German tanks).
Riveted are the worst because riveted armour is prone to break easily, but was the most available because locomotive factories could quickly switch to tank production (hence why most British medium tanks were hopeless against Panzers).
Cast armour offers significantly better protection and requires much less skilled workers and production hours but needs huge centralised industrial complexes, but still offers less protection then welded armour which is why US switched from casting to welding tanks (late war sherman are chunky due to welding)
Casting requires the most skilled workers and production hours, but can be done in decentralised factories which was ideal for Germany due to bombing campaign.
T-34 had welded hull, the welding on most still surviving examples are poor, but considering that the average T-34 was destroyed under less then 3 months, it didnât matter much back then.
As for turret, from 1942 onward they used casting to save on production time.
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? Whatâs the point of your picture?
I canât seem to find the T34s loss data from the German military.
If I remember correctly, up to 1943 most T34s got taken out by regular 5cm guns - not the L60 but the regular Panzer III J gun.
But thatâs not even the surprising part, I was shocked that those statistics claimed that more than 10% of total losses were indeed due to 37mm guns.
That much?!? I expected something much lower.
I need to find those records, without confirmation my claims should mean nothing
