This game is becoming better and better and it’s listening to the feedbacks. It is also becoming more balanced but there is one problem i have seen.
The Pz.II is just a little unbalanced against the T-60 because the Pz.II has little more penetration and armour than the T-60. + the T-60 has less crew. the only thing i have seen that the T-60 has over the Pz.II is the turret rotation and it’s firerate.
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i suggest you to give a look into this;
might help.
in my personal opinion, it’s not about being unbalance, because ww2 wasn’t balanced at all. for many reasons. and in this chase, it’s different. because tanks can’t be the same. those are differents.
anyway, cheers ^^
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U right but i wish u were wrong.
Personally I think the default tanks should be Panzer 3 and T-26 or BT-7, I think the T-60 is a good addition and its a very effective infantry killer, but the most accessable way for a new player to kill tanks is with another tank, the only AT weapon they get besides that is TNT, and killing tanks with TNT takes getting used to.
I can definately see how a more skilled player could flank enemy tanks and kill them from the side while taking advantage of the increased anti infantry capability of the Autocannon, but a noob in a T-60 or Panzer 2 will ragequit once they meet anything with a 37mm or 45mm.
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“fun” thing is that the pz3B is gonna suffer even more here as it can’t reliably pen the T-60 while getting lolpenned by the T-60 in return. T-26 can at least pen the Pz2 but the Pz2 is definitely superior to it.
Imo a Pz3E/J1 or Pz4C/D should fit better in the place for the Pz3B (which was never deployed in moscow to begin with historically)
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I agree with you. you cant pen PZII‘s front armor with TNSh at all，but for KwK30…its easy
Compared to what the German players had to deal with previously with the III vs the BA, this is much more fair. Previously we were getting derped by that thing about 4-5 times without even being able to fire.
When we were lucky enough to get the first shot off, we’d rarely ever do anything to the enemy vehicle.
This is worlds better, and the T-60 can definitely still kill the II, you just need to go about it in a different way.
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Disagree. I believe T60 is overpowered and has much better armor than PZ.II, which leads to easy wins for russian team.
Proofs:
- T60 ‘holds’ full clip in close combat (same as PZ, which means they are at least equal).
- T60 wins duel against 2 enemy tanks in very close range.
I can make such videos daily x10, because basically every T60 i see on the battle makes longe range fight impossible to win and close range is a matter of luck and skill if you manage to flank, as front and side angled attacks bring nothing.
Just entered a battle and captures how T60 holds multiple shots from 36mm cannon.
- T60 surviving multiple shots against 36mm cannon while PZ gets blowed INSTANTLY.
- Trying to penetrate front armor of T60 using anti tank weapon, 52m range. 52m range (!!!) WHY WOULD I NEED A GUN BEING NOT ABLE TO PENETRATE from 52m if can blow this shit using grenade from 35-40???
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It’s not really true. T-60 can’t be penetrated frontaly by both Pz-2 and Pz-3b
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Yeah, the T-60 has more rounds in a clip (from what Ive seen) and is incredibly hard to pen from the front, Id prefer the Ba-11 over the T-60 in a PzII versus match
The T-60 is pretty weak from the side and can not reliably penetrate the Pz2 frontally either except for a weak spot on the turret, just like with how the Pz2 can pen a turret weakspot on the T-60.
They’re balanced, just too clunky to make work for new players.
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It can very easily be penned in the turret by the Pz II from the front, Whenever I get penned in the T-60 9/10 its in the turret from the front. The T-60 can also do this to the Pz2 to a lesser extent, but only because of the sheer rate of fire of the T-60, if both players have equally decent aim the Pz2 will win a 1v1 tank fight, if both dont know what the weak points are, the T-60 might win due to the sheer volume of fire
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aim
for
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turret
seriously anything can pen the T-60 turret, your not going to be able to penetrate anything if you aim for that heavily angled front armor
aim
for
the
turret
seriously anything can pen the PZ2 turret, your not going to be able to penetrate anything if you aim for that heavily angled front armor
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Seriously, the point of this videos is not to prove that T60 is owerpowered. The point of my answer is – “PZ” dies easily like shown on the videos, THEREFORE PZ2 IS NOT IMBALANCED.
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well, actually yes, but no.
shooting the turrett with a panzer 2 it’s a good idea. but at the same time, it’s not.
i higly reccomend to shoot it from the side.
because if you shoot the turrett, you might gonna kill the gunner, and end your magazine. before the new mag of the panzer 2, the russian gunner/commander can take his place in almost no time.
so it’s very risky.
but i can 100% that it’s not unbalance to be honest. you have to play with brain. not just rush because you think are superior. you literally get what you deserve doing that. the only thing i would say that is not correct, it’s the AT rifle. because at that time, at rifles could have easily pen light tanks without any trouble. even frontally.
Im saying this because in ALL 3 clips you didnt even bother to aim for the tanks weakpoint, you just unloaded on the toughest parts of its armor and lost, thats how tank combat is supposed to work. In the 3rd clip you got instakilled because you let the second T-60 hit you in the side (your weakpoint). If you hit the turret once in any of those engagements you wouldve won
furthermore the T-60 only has enough armor penetration to get through the Panzer 2’s frontal 30mm plate and turret front at close range and completely unangled (within slightly less than 100 meters assuming it has its highest penetration ammo type API HV) while the T-60’s 20-25mm turret cannot resist Panzer 2 rounds within 500 meters
Tl:dr if you just shoot at any part of the tank and dont take the time to shoot weak points you will lose regardless of what tank your using, I have used both the T-60 and Panzer 2 and I perfer the Panzer 2 because of the range advantage
How does this proofs that PZ2 is imbalanced? This thread is about how PZ2 superior is over T60, and all i see just some explanations where i have to learn to play PZ2 in order to kill someone. Like why do you call PZ2 imbalanced if you need to know how to fight, know where to shoot, use tacticts and precise aim???
I believe T60 is overpowered and has much better armor than PZ.II, which leads to easy wins for russian team.
I was responding to what you said here
you need to know how to shoot in both tanks, the T-60 has a huge disadvantage in effective range against the panzer 2 but it can overcome this to an extent with spamability
either way if you don’t aim for weak points while playing the T-60 you will still lose, since it has less turret armor and armor penetration than the Pz2. The sheer Rate of Fire of the T-60 means its easier to hit weak points, but you have to get much closer to effectively penetrate them unless you get a side shot.
It was said in regard of thread context starting with “disagree” about topic pasters opinion where he says ‘PZ2 is unbalanced. In my opinion t60 is still more powerful than pz. Like ‘overpowered’ is surely not true, but the whole thread is not true, so overstating isnt an issue here. T60 penetrates PZ in front weekspot just aswell from long range, with much higher firing speed.