T-34 in Battle of Moscow

Games can still destroy T-34 with TNT Packs. I don’t see the issues. T-34 was used historically during Battle of Moscow to repel the Germans

Besides T-34 being the iconic tank that participated in the Battle of Moscow, T-34 does fit support for infantry combat besides killing enemy tanks and more suitable than the T-28.

As of now, Soviets only has Light Tanks, while German have access to Medium Tanks. Its quite unfair that the Germans had better advantage when it comes to Tanks

German Tanks can still destroy T-34 by flanking just like the Jumbo

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Panzer IV in Moscow just need HEAT Rounds to compensate, as well as higher tier Tanks. Moscow shouldn’t be just about Light Tanks Battles, with Germany having access to Medium Tanks

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Germans also have access to Stronger Bombs and better Planes. Which they can use to Kill T-34 without Issues

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T-50 and panzer IV are medium tank and the t-34 is mass used during winter offensive not battle of moscow so wait for winter offensive campagni for me is better add to the soviet the t-60 in moscow

There were mentions of T-34 being used. T-34 were the reason why Germans started Developing better guns and better Tanks based on Soviets discovery. T-34 makes their first appearance in Battle of Moscow

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the Soviets do have a medium tank, the T-28, but some pass it off as a support tank, besides, the Soviet tanks in the Moscow campaign are better than the German’s, where as before the German tanks were far superior

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but the current campaign on moscow, is set during the start of it therefore before the mass use of the t-34 by the Soviets, it is very likely that the campaign will be expanded and cover the whole battle but with what we have now adding more random stuff will only give problems but i agree that the soviets need something more and the t-60 is perfect for me instead of the t-34 for now

they also used the KV-1, but it was impossible for any German tank to pen it, they had to use 88mm flak guns to even stand a chance

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Absolutely agree, but that’s a T-34/85, the one you want is the T-34/76 (1940) with the 76mm L-11 gun - a slightly longer by one calibre diameter one to the T-28 currently in game.

I think the 50mm PAK and the PZIIIJ should be able to deal with them reliably at the engagement ranges in Enlisted.

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Yeah this one my bad. They already have the model on Warthunder so Im sure it can be added
https://wiki.warthunder.com/T-34_(1940)

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Soviets have the BT7, arguably one of the best if not the best tank of battle for moscow. Its fast, versatile and deadly.

t28 is pretty op…3 x machine guns (can shoot them fast even without main gun aimed) , 6 crew and good cannon !.. Actually in the begining of war Soviet Tanks wore superior (Kv1 and T34) only later in Normandy German tanks wore superior !

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sorry I meant in the Moscow campaign in game where German tanks were better before a certain update

yep that’s the one.

There shouldn’t really be an issue for the next level of tank to be added.

As was mentioned before the Germans can get the PzIII J1 or the redesignated L variant as those were already in LRIP by 1941.

Ideally, the PzIII B in game should be replaced by the Pz35t and the PzIIIE replaced by a Stug IIIA.

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First learn to use English in sentence ! T34 was in Red Army even before battle for Moscow with KV1 ,even with still small numbers helped to slow down the german advance !

T34 will be added in Battle for Moscow and t50 is its precursor…
Noobs have cryed on forums for Kv-1 to be removed as they still dont know how to destroy tanks with op plane bombs and explosive packs !

1 I use the translator
2 i never said i don’t want it i just said that for now as the campaign needs to be expanded with new maps and new levels it would be better to add easy to balance premium units like the t-60
3 the campaign is set in the early moscow stages
4 who complained about kv1 I don’t even like you take too much coffee in the morning

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Bombs I can live with, the explosive packs are stupid.

Satchel charges should be modelled to replace the stupid dynamite stick and issued only to engineers and dedicated anti-armour teams. Everyone else, learn to evade and hide or rely on your team mates tanks/planes until you get your own.

They can ofcourse use the molotovs for psychological relief and to blind the tank - I acually like that implementation currently in game. It’s quite nifty.

As it stands most ppl don’t bother with some squads because they are not needed in game - that’s just stupid design. Needs to be considered with more common sense and adjusted.

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Giving the T-28 it’s normal APHE round would even things up enough - there’s really no practical way to balance the T-34 or any KV - even the pre-war T-34 with L-11 gun is too good - it is longer than the T-28 gun (30 cal instead of 26.5), and of course it has teh sloped 45mm armour of all T-34’s.

the 60 caliber 50mm in the P3J and Pak 38 was not an adequate counter - it could penetrate under ideal conditions, but even at Enlisted ranges it struggled from the front - relying upon hitting weak sport or jamming the turret.

eg se this discussion about exactly this point -

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=133403

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I checked the stats for the T-34 and it only has this much armor. Its even lower than the current ones we have for T-50
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It also mentions this.
However, the T-34 is not an invincible foe. The T-34 1940 has a weak turret, which even some rank 1 guns can penetrate! It is recommended to aim for the turret ring, as the cramped crew compartment will result in an easy crew kill. Another weakspot of the T-34 is the turret cheeks - there are some flat spots that are 45mm, disabling the turret crew and the gun. A shot may ricochet off the turret cheeks into the crew compartment.

Which means it can be added similar to Jumbo which have the MG Port weakness

1 i dont care
2 also dont care as i want t34 and why not even a premium version !
3 there is no early stages versions of campagns, and irrelevent as devs are going to be more flexible, they allready added things that wore late in Normandy !
4 you wehraboos complain all the time… crybabys ruining the game along with scared devs