Finally somebody who writes it openly instead of hiding behind some BS arguments about accidents and questionable fun.
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Well he doesn’t want to keep flying after taking out the problematic tank. “Learn to aim bombs” wouldn’t change his situation. He’d just click suicide in the menu otherwise.
As OP what do you think about my earlier comment regarding rendering distance of infantry (and tanks)
As far am remember there is time penalty if you crash/die too fast(35 seconds till new spawn instead of 10)
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Yes, there’s something like this.
I once picked unintentionally plane. And when I did suicide my soldiers via Esc, I had to wait longer to respawn.
No, it IS a problem, it is just an easy out… tank problem, just use plane as missile, no skill, no aim, just point and drop bombs half seconds before crashing. I will never agree it’s not skillless and toxic, it’s just another exploit. Besides I never said nerf bombs, no just penalize XP, not just from kill, but take away 500xp or lower rank if over X times in a day, for each technical suicide, from that player, it won’t help all players, some don’t care… as for accidental, this game has been around a whole, 2 yrs, people can learn from others as I did… there is no excuse.
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I am primaly tank player. I should be the one who’s crying instead of engineer lover.
But I literally don’t even remember last time when I was destroyed by suicide plane, lol.
I remember time when I didn’t get points even when I should.
I did several bombing attacks with my plane and then had 1 to 1 fight with plane. I was vicious but I was heavily damaged.
I tried to use my bombs. But I crushed right after. So I literally didn’t get any points.
I literally didn’t even know it was because of suicide bomber prevention. I literally didn’t even know suicide plane were a problem earlier. I didn’t even know why did this happen.
But I learned later. And I don’t like it at all.
People like you literally stole my exps.
I am really glad this is not a thing anymore.
You should just accept people in games will never behave just like in real life.
There’s buch of suicide rushing flametroopers. Bunch of people who’s using tank only to destroy other tank and then immediately leave it.
But it’s not a problem.
This game do not require big skill level in pretty much anything. And pretty much every squad can fo efficient suicide attacks. Death isn’t punishment for any squad currently.
But somehow farming old made up “issues” over and over again is still popular.
It’s really so fkn annoying.
The biggest punishment for those people are wasting their precious vehicle slot, especially since majority of people has only one.
Imagine wasting whole squad for thing that one EP could do instead, lmao.
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Sorry but boy you are one of “them”, ok cool, you are all for anything that wins, whereas I am for fair gameplay.
I often play Tunax, I help the lower levels with my planes and tanks and rallies, to help the team. I sometimes (often) have to bring PzIIIN to fight to HE the camping HMG and MMG nests mowing down the newer players, as soon as they start losing an advantage, some one like you comes along, spawns a plane, doesn’t actually use (or have) any skill and suicide bombs me as I was being effective… I have no objection to dying when bombs are dropped and not suicided into me… that is fair game!
I imagine you think having all rifle grenade launchers on your infantry was ok when it was around… well I am your polar opposite and look forward to fighting on the battlefield against you and any other exploitative players…
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I do play planes only when I know I don’t have to carry my team, lmao. It’s basically just chill gameplay.
I really doubt you are helping “newplayers” while you’re in plane. Since in majority of cases objectives would be lost before you could bomb it for second time.
Don’t even try auch made up nonsense on me.
I truly do help Tunisia Axis :)) and I pretty much never used plane just to bomb one tank and then crush it to the ground.
Btw. Fun fact, I don’t even have plane in my tunisia axis setup.
You are just egoistic manipulator.
Currently Kamikaze is the only way for kill medium and heavy tank with 50kg-100kg bomb because their AOE is bugged, i hate Kamikaze but i cant go aganaist a player who need do this because 9 time out of 10 his bomb is useless if dont land directly on the tank
The situation is different from the early open beta where even a small bomb was a nuke now a small bomb do the same damage of a fart
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Couple of problems with current bombing:
1.) Spotting is shit: the render distance is just garbage and means it’s even unrealistically hard to see anything
2.) Bomb damage is wildly inconsistent and nerfed, meaning that you often have to literally hit a tank for your bomb to have an effect.
This results in having to react way too fast and needing to drop way too close. Where you also often accidentally wreck the plane.
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At least we are seeing some interesting reasons as to why, bomb effectiveness is not really valid, it takes skill to drop bombs, people don’t want to miss and do second run.
I don’t blame all the players, the nature of game is XP XP XP, I help my team bombing tanks properly, using tanks to break encamped teams, but I don’t exploit or sit in tank unless it is only way to push, if you played against me, I’m an aggressive tanker.
I don’t care about kills, I like to have fun and hate seeing new players get raped ie Tunisia Allies
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That’s why you always need enemy tank marked. But it’s very easy to do so.
If tank is marked, it’s extremely easy to destroy it. Especially if you just dive bomb him.
I was dive bombing with planes like JU-188 and BF-110 and basically never crashed. It’s way more efficient than normal bombing. Which can be sometimes pretty random and bombs can bounce from the tank.
But playing planes is extremely chill gameplay, its basically just farming.
Killing tanks without any skill needed, sometimes fights enemy planes. And if there’s not any tanknor plane, just bomb objective or MG nests tha you can easily spot by its tracers.
But you really do rely on your team.
I tend to jump between the campaigns and maybe that’s the reason why i prefer low level attacks to dives, as I usually don’t remember how to hit dive bombing with the particular plane. When i was grinding out axis moscow i would use the stuka a lot and did dive bomb more.
Anyway, when i suicide bomb it’s
70% by accident (incompetence)
20% to finish the flying because i got bored
10% International fuck you.
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If they add this penalty, they need to make planes easier to fly… most of the time when I crash shortly after dropping bombs its because the planes are ridiculously hard to control and I’d rather use my time elsewhere after taking out that grey zone tank…
Bring over the Warthunder plane controls!!!
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It was a bug (according to devs).
In a properly working system you would get your exp as it was not a suicide but you were esentially shot down.
Basically as long as you don’t repetitively ram the ground time and time again you should have nothing to worry about.
In the current system pilots who don’t suicide are “the bad guys”. And this should be changed.
Penalising suicide bombing is the easy way, just like devs like it.
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But what’s the difference for you is you get killed with a suicide bombing or by a bomb dropped 1km in the air?
A bit of a rant after a long day but I think my points have merit.
I mentioned (or tried to) the same thing way upthread. Sometimes you’re just needed on the ground yet no bots are gonna go get the gray zone tank or maybe the one or two other players can’t.
I don’t intentionally crash into tanks very often, but I feel this whole issue is really overblown. It’s “toxic?” Maybe. I mean, I think that flamethrowers, WP grenades, large grenade pouches, leaning while moving and firing and late game tanks (e.g. Tiger II) are toxic. I think double hauling grenade launchers is toxic. I think stacks being matched in games to collections of single players is toxic. I think it’s toxic when I’m the only one trying to cap and defend a point and 3 or 4 of my teammates are cruising around in vehicles not really accomplishing anything. I think that constantly asking for nerfs or changes that aren’t bug fixes is toxic. So… what? Should we pull it all back to just bolt actions and be done with anyone disliking anything?
People think it’s toxic as they got their tank blown up and assume the pilot could not have pulled it off without suicide. I don’t think that’s true nearly as often as they think. I also don’t think those same people can, being honest, argue that tanks aren’t super capable of massive scores and, at times, controlling matches. Why do we need to make changes to make it easier for them? It’s a real question.
Last thought. If, when I know I need to get out of a plane to help on the ground, I bomb a tank then fly for 15s, make one turn and bail out… then suicide my soldier. Would you feel better? Did it actually change anything? I think this would be the alternate scenario most often.
Dude get over it, it’s a good way to deal with grey zone tanks. Especially the ones use the double king tiger strat. In which case, suicide bombing is the best way to deal with it if all other countermeasures like bazooka sniping or Greg some rushing fail. And if you’re suggesting something to be done about suicide bombing then here, it expends 25 tickets per plane crash. Better off have someone suicide crashing than someone staying up in a bomber plane all game doing nothing. And if you’re suggesting more penalties for suicide crashes, then I’m suggesting to find a way to penealize grey zone tankers to counter balance it.
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*or grey zone rushing fail
Can suggest long spawn delay for next squad (or next few spawns) of suicide bomber players.