Suggestions for more diverse units

It’s awesome to finally see a female squad, but will you add random female soldiers (especially snipers) to the Soviet infantry side? That would be historically accurate and really cool in terms of diversifying the game.

Also, it would be amazing to see Polish units in the Red Army. 250,000 Poles served in the Red Army itself – including 3,000 defending Moscow and over 10,000 during the Battle of Stalingrad; these are maps already available in the game. In 1944, Konstanty Rokossowski – a Polish man – was Marshal of the Soviet Union, which was the highest military rank of the USSR! I think it’s almost criminal to not include Polish units and soldiers with Polish names fighting on the Russian side in a game that aims to be historically accurate.

Elsewhere on the Eastern Front of WW2, there were up to 100,000 soldiers in the Soviet-controlled Armia Ludowa – which was the main non-partisan Polish army in the east. There were also the partisan forces, the largest and most effective of which was the Armia Krajowa with 400,000 members at its peak (also many women fighters and female medics here, a perfect opportunity for more diversity) along with other and smaller non-aligned groups.

Poles also fought on the Western Front, around 250,000 soldiers that we know of spread across various formations and countries (Polish pilots and navy in Britain, tankmen in North Africa, infantry and artillery with the Allies at Monte Cassino, etc.). So, all things considered, Poles and people of Polish descent fought on almost every front and battle of the Second World War.

I think a quick patch could be done to add soldiers with Polish names in Red Army forces, then another slightly bigger one to add Polish units to the Soviet side in existing campaigns – especially Armia Ludowa forces, finally a larger scale update to bring us Polish partisans with new maps (such as the Warsaw Uprising – the single largest military effort taken by any anti-Nazi resistance movement during World War II).

Once the Polish theme is dealt with (which is key considering there were at least 1 million Poles fighting in World War II during a time when there no longer was a regular Polish army), there are also many other opportunities to include different nations: Yugoslav and French resistance movements, Romanian and Hungarian troops on the Axis side, and many more. Italians and other nations beside Germany, USSR, USA are a good start, but we need more.

If you agree with any of this or have suggestions for other armies that should be added, please like and comment here. Let’s keep this thread alive to show the need to add more units to Enlisted.

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Saw the word diversity and instantly didnt like the suggestion. Read further and still didnt like it.
No thanks, adds nothing to the game. Women added literally nothing. Poles wont add anything at all.

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100% agreed.

eh…

i’m a bit conflicted ( not really ).

we don’t really need them to be honest.
it’s not like that it should be a thing in priorities.

but, since enlisted it’s somewhat a former shadow of it’s self, i don’t see this not being a thing.
and since it will happen ( or good chances of seeing them for example both for the germans ( only berlin of course. devs are not that dumb ), and the russians in basically every campaign,

i’d rather see them as gold order trooper. so you have a limited ammount of those… " type of units ". and does not become your next " Insert name of your wannabe ww2 title that does not resemble anything of it "

but, i hope to be wrong and we don’t get to see those as well.
at the end of the day, again, it’s not really something you or anyone else need.

otherwise,

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Sure for 60€ each as overpriced premium/legendary squad everything can be added even the gustav cannon

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hell yeah.

1 click gameplay and half of the team wiped when??!

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I dont want to see polish men fighting for the russians. There is a bigger missed opportunity! We need siberians and co. for our soviets to add up diversity within their own nation first.

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I think the gold order soldier idea is a great one. It would give them a real purpose now that it’s so easy to get a level V soldier.

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And the Germans, and the French, and anyone else. Many people of many nations fought for the Soviet army.In fact, dozens of nations also fought for Germans,Americans. So add only poles its strange, better dont touch current situation.It’s not worth it.

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I’d like to see Polish T-34 with a crew of four tank-men and a dog.

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great idea, id love to see it

Divercity is great, however there certainly more pressing things for this games future. Such as a SEA region (Hong Kong servers to keep the chinese from joining EU severs en mass), Phili/Aus servers for the rest. Giving millions of gamers better ping is probably a higher priority than adding Polish weapons/units. However, simply adding them to the name pool could work effortlessly.

millions of gamers

In this game? What a good fellow optimist you are!

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The day is see them i call you currently
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Enlisted has at least 400.000 registred player and at least 50.000 active player wo play daily

I didn’t mean add only Poles, I just think we should start with them considering their massive input. Poles contributed more to the Allied war effort - with no regular army of their own - than many entire countries. Did you know that Polish flags were flown in Monte Cassino and Berlin?

Why is it so hard to accept for some people that women played a huge part in WW2, especially in partisan formations like in occupied Poland, Belarus, Yugoslavia, France, etc.? This is exactly the gritty and apocalyptic realism of WW2 that so much war fiction is missing. The generic, male-only, regular army US, USSR, British, German forces that we get is a Hollywood, bubble-wrap, safe, politically-correct version of war that has been drip-fed to (particularly Western) audiences ever since the 1950s. In reality, in the Armia Krajowa even kids fought as scouts - civilians were being rounded up and exterminated via street shootings everyday, before the uprising even started. I had hoped that a Latvian game published by a Russian studio, territories that are no strangers to the horrors of the Eastern Front, would not omit this and that the players here would be open to the more difficult subjects of the Second World War. I’m not arguing for some weird Battlefield V style hybrid, I’m arguing for developers to finally start tackling difficult themes like minorities, partisans, and genocide in wartime.

I think they did a decent job with some of the faces on Soviet soldiers that look more Asian or Tatar, but yes - more diversity here would be great also.

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That’s a good point, but why not work on both at the same time? It is usually different teams that work on new content and stability anyway.

This is another thing I forgot to mention, as there are some awesome Polish guns that could be added to the game: legendary Polish handgun the Vis pistol for Polish troops and partisans (as well as the later Germanised version for German Fallschirmjäger and officers; Nazis liked this amazing firearms so much that they produced well over 300,000 of them after capturing the factory), Błyskawica submachine gun produced and used by the AK, Polish variant of the Sten, and Browning wz. 1928 (Polish BAR) were the main ones.

In october of 2020, during the alpha testing of the game, I suggested that female soldiers be included in enlisted as it was historically accurate. I was loudly shouted down as it was claimed the hit boxes would be smaller, that I was jamming political correctness into the game, and in general belittled for the suggestions. It is now 2022 and approaching two years since I made that suggestion and female soldiers have yet to appear and they are supposedly in progress.

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Yugoslavia too. Probably even more, Poland in fact had two regular armies in 45 (the first and second Polish armies as part of the Soviet troops). You can add a premium squad with Poles and Polish weapons to Berlin, why not?I don’t mind.

Well, no regular army under Polish control - regular armies under American, Russian, British control. But lots of partisan forces too. And exactly re: Yugoslavia, this is why I put it in the OP as a suggestion too. Yugoslav partisans are considered by some to have been the most effective insurgent forces in WW2.

Well, there is a female pilot squad now (premium of course), but it looks like the community hasn’t matured much since your original suggestion. At the sheer mention of women and other nations there has already been in this thread an outcry about forced diversity and how it all would no longer resemble WW2 and so on…

Not resembling what version of the Second World War? The one from the movies, where the Americans alone saved the day and Russian contribution is completely forgotten? Some British TV drama of complete fiction where the Nazis have actually invaded England and there’s a strong resistance movement going (probably guilt from not helping in the east at all)? Or from the Russian side, but no mention of extremely capable Yugoslav and Polish partisans?

These people have a very romanticised view of the war that doesn’t resemble reality at all, probably grew up on American films and maybe the more recent Russian state-funded ones too that have been pumped out regularly. I can’t imagine how they’d manage living in a country where every street has a plaque or monument dedicated to a battle or massacre that took place there.

I think they should check out Soviet film “Иди и смотри” (Come and See) or Polish film “Miasto 44” (City 44 or Warsaw 44) if they want to grasp something closer to the real deal.