Suggestion for balance of vehicles in battle

[Shiivex]

it also gets boring to play against or with lowlevel players over and over
and its frustrating to play only against my level players like this is a esl major final

a midground… we need a midground on MM

[Barendd1974]

I think an Immersive/Historically-accurate toggle (like Voyo suggested) could probably fix some of this, but it obviously isn’t the final or permanent solution to this. I feel like we’re straying further away from some immersive WW2 game and heading towards some average arcadey shooter.

[US_Matt_LT]

“Working as intendedTM”

[nasosc]

Both true. Maybe maybe add some basic new players protection, like you only goes against lets say lvl10 players for the first 15-20 matches in a campaign. Something like that, hope you get the spirti

[Shiivex]

did suggest that over the last months .

@Conscript_Joe is working in something also to boost a new player experience :

Let's help new players and possibly keep them in the game!

Yesterday amongst much discussion about “balance” and the eternal boost this nerf this babbling, someone ( @27345834 ) came with a genuinely good idea to help new players out starting the game and compete with us veterans faster, as well as hopefully keeping them in the game loop: New players could have a TEMPORARY assigned premium squad with high lvl soldiers and armament assigned to them, for the campaign of their choice. This squad could either be available until a certain lvl is reached (a…

[nasosc]

Interesting thread, ty. I ll have a look at it tomorrow and maybe add some ideas

[Barendd1974]

I agree with it. Should be randomly given one Premium squad for a match, and after the match there should be a menu asking if the player would want to buy it after essentially testing it. Buying it would obviously mean that they keep it, while it would be RNG next match whether or not they get that squad or a different Premium squad to test.

[Shiivex]

again. Only for newplayers.

[CN_RamboSnoop]

@rrangwoo

Cheep light tank can be spawned easierly while heavy strong higher placed tank will need more efffect(spawnpoint) to spawn

this is gold, and will reduce the effect of low tier tanks constantly losing vs high tier tanks. however some of the other ideas in this thread are a bit strange… I wouldn’t want to limit people to 1 tank per game, thats nuts

[Barendd1974]

Either that or the system is disabled after a player buys one or two Premium squads. It would help F2P players not lose their minds too. I understand that the system could be abused if they don’t disable it, so someone with one Premium squad left to buy would always get that as their random squad

[Conscript_Joe]

Please go read the thread, and feel free to add any ideas to it. We want (and need) new players to STAY with us.

[Upolaf]

@rrangwoo

there are no reason(in most of the case) to use low level older weapons.

That’s where you are wrong kiddo.

• Bereta M38 is a low weapon and the best SMG in tunisia axis.
• M1 garand is a low weapon and you will keep in until the end or close to end game. In normandy or tunisia.
• Armaguerra too in tunisia.
• MP40 in moscow.

Also there are a lot of weapon that can be very good if upgraded, and can be as powerfull as non upgraded end game weapons.

Finaly sometime i just enjoy the sound of my kar98k or my gewehr even if I know I got a full squad of FG42.

Raly point win more battle than op weapons… one day people will understand it.

For russian yea maybe… but russian end game weapons are broken so you never use the low tier version.

[HumberCommy]

@Upolaf

until

For low tier soviet, PPD38/drum and Mosin30 to full stars for Moscow (Winchester and STV-38 are expensive af), I agree with you that mp38/40 max stars perform wonder. MG13 also good, I max it out and use them as assault rifle.

PPS-43 and STV-40 are cheap for full stars in Berlin. For German berlin, Max out MG34 as soon as possible MP40 are cheap too. You can counter everything soviet throw at you with MG34 and a panzerfaust.

[Soul_Tribunal]

Valuation of levels for all the players in where it tallies our relative scores/effectiveness.

So you get maybe a few high tier mid to high and low.
MWO has something kinda like this.

[Soul_Tribunal]

I agree. I still run G43s and Kar98ks in Berlin, Mannlichers and MP34s in Normandy , heck I have the 33/40s in Moscow still because I love the sights and the gun in general.
How I play on the battlefield defines if we have a better chance of winning or not.

[Soul_Tribunal]

And flamethrower, come on humber, I know you love your flamethrowers.

[HumberCommy]

Not unlocked it in Moscow yet . If i have it, PPSh is just trivial. Currently use my KP26 and 3 MKB 35/III.

[CN_RamboSnoop]

@Upolaf

M1 garand

isn’t that at level 26

[Upolaf]

In normandy it’s 8.
In tunisia it’s probably very high.

[Srg_Steiner]

If this game turns to become Warthunder point system im quitting ^^ Thought this game represented all 3 elements in one (Tank, Air, Inf) even if infantry seems to be the focus.
But going back to WT which i also thought was an mix of both planes and tanks from the start turned in to some kind of segregation of some sort where you could play a plane if you like for a short time or play a plane but no tanks at all with a sprinkle play of bombers which are frowned on by the diva Fighter players who only care about their energy and kill ratio not teamplay