STUG III F to BR2

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For the western Allies

M10 Should be moved down to BR II
M18 Should be moved down to BR III
M36 should be added to BR IV

For Germany

StuG III F should be moved to BR II

Jagdpanzer IV Should be moved to BR III

Panzer IV/70(A) Could stay at BR IV or could be moved down to late BR III (Just because the chassis is awfully bad in my opinion, but the cannon does work perfectly fine at BR IV.

Panzer IV/70(V) Should be moved down to BR IV and given APCR ammo.

I think the SU thing from the soviets is BR IV and I think it is good were it is.

I donā€™t play Japan so I wont say nothing about their stuff.

43

How is it crazy? No turret rotation, no MG and average armour.

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With less HE it might work
Noted

45

Less HE will make it useless, every tank needs at least some anti infantry power

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46

I tried to play on this. The most helpless thing I have ever used. Changing BR will not change anything. But BR3 is more than relevant today, if you do not want to play on this on BR3, then on BR2 you will not play on thisā€¦

47

Well gameplay wise it already feels like a worse Semovente, but the guns AT power is an improvement for sure.

Either Germany needs a BR2 vehicle with better armor so German tank dont all get one hit killed guaranteed all the time - or they need better firepower. T28E is really annoying to deal with.

Panzer IIIN had the benefit that T28E was required to aim, but now all German BR2 vehicles have 50mm of armor.

I see only STUG III F as a reasonable vehicle for this right now, Panzer III L is basically like Panzer III M which already is kinda OP for BR2.

Or Panzer IV F1 should get some HEATs, I dont knowā€¦

There arenā€™t many options for early German tanks that have above 50mm of armor.

Maybe a T28E nerf could do the trick - in the end Panzer IIIN was moved to BR3 because it was best in anti infantry AND anti tank at the same time, this now also applies to T28E.

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ā€¦For Germany (HEAT is not a good AT roundā€¦you accept it as good for when your APHE round doesnt cut it). T-28E was always the better anti tank. (and consquently will still do the Stugs job better. even if the Stug moved to BR 2ā€¦while still have machine guns, good HE and a turret)

I dont know what people thought was gonna happen. T-28E was always right up there

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I usually just get a marder to deal with those, but yeah I would still rather pick a stug over the marder.