Are you talking about whether it would be strange if Type 2 and Type 2A had different damage? As for me, this can be considered just a game convention, seriously, our MP40 and MP38 have different damage.
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Well yes The BR IV version since now its very unique probably the best made SMG of this update since now its really BR IV SMG.
Mp40 was only very viable at the start of the game where Soviets never had unlocked their smgs and had vitality perked out, now it’s the worst smg you can use outside of m38/m1 beretta.
Do i need to remind you that ppd34 with drum mag was unlocked at the same level as mp40 in og Moscow campaign.
Yes DF really thought that mp40 is a BR4 smg. Then changed their mind and acted like it’s br3 worthy and only after my and others complains they lowered it to BR2. Gaijin wants Germany to be always weak that’s their motto since beginning of Enlisted.
The mp40 only has to be viable in the early game since it’s br2, br2 should have inherently weaker guns. Also it feels like your comparing apples to oranges, the body armour and vitality are both different subjects themselves, we should be comparing the guns.
Campaign unlocks were weird, for example the browning auto 5 and katana unlocked at the same level as well and they aren’t mirror images In terms of balance. So this isn’t exactly a smoking gun.
No not exactly, but as a rule all fractions should be “weak” at lower brs , Germany wasn’t always weak at low brs it’s just it’s lagged behind, but it doesn’t need to catch up instead all the other nations need to return to the baseline of lower tier power levels.
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Vitality and body armor has insane effect on performance of mp40. Instead of killing people at massive range in 2 hits you will do it in pathetic 3 hits just like any other much superior smg but with much slower rof. That’s why that gun is so weak.
we both know it will not happen as Gaijin keeps pumping even more power creep to three nations and leaving Germany behind with BR0 smgs at BR2
Because a 40 round smg that can two hit kill would be op against a 32 round smg that can 2:hit kill
And if they buffed the damage of a 9 mm 32 round smg to 2:hit kill weens would demand it for the 40 round smg for historical accuracy
Germany having 2 hit kill at 9mm would require 45s to have a one hit kill which would be even worse
So why are you encouraging them to keep doing it, by asking for a mp40 buff it just makes this behaviour acceptable. If people give they’re feedback about this power creep at least then they’ll be a chance of change, but if you keep asking for more things to be buffed then the lower brs will suffer.
3 shots to kill is not pathetic. If you require every gun to be a laser with 700+ rpm and no recoil then that’s a clear skill issue, smgs should be close range weapons not snipers.
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I’ve been complaining for months about both 30 round thompsons being added to BR2, What DF did? nothing. I’ve been complaining for over a year about pps-42/43 and recently Uragan. What’s changed? Not much but promise of taking Uragan away to BR3. So as you can see only one gun has potential to get moved but rest will still be there always ready to destroy German players.
They rarely listen and chance of them listening is only a bit better because many people are speaking against it. However you may remember how many people are talking about overpowered body armor. It’s must have been at least 1k posts about that and guess what? Nobody at DF seem to give a single crap.
3 rounds to kill with 570rpm is extremely pathetic as any other smg (pps-42, 2a, and uragan if you burst) can do the same thing as your precious mp40 but faster and more accurately than you. I see no point in continuing playing as Germany as you are just torturing yourself. It’s like playing Demon’s souls/Dark souls 2 but with hp debuff at all times.
PS speaking about DF “listening” they still don’t care about our feedback with FNAB-43 and it’s late upgraded version with much faster rof or Mp40 Steyr with up to 1100rpm. They just ignore it and gave us laughable reward which is white covered mp40. What i’m supposed to do with that crap? Equip it and play in Tunisia/Moscow/Berlin/Normany? Lmao
Any balanced gun would look pathetic if it was compared to an OP gun. The uragan and pps43 should not dictate the baseline power level of br2 guns, the mp40 shouldn’t have to compete with a gun that doesn’t even belong in br2.
Please do not ignore me either the 30 round thompson b belongs at br234 or only at br3 if it’s not a br2; smg it’s not a br4 smg the idea that you only need move br2 30 round Tommy’s to br3:is pure anti US propaganda, if need be nerf them all to 600 or 700 bpm but 700 or 800 bpm is not br 4 quality
Again i never told anything about 43 and yet you keep on going like it’s the best gun in a game told by me. PPS-42 is vastly superior and i will always keep saying that, it’s mp40 but actually good. And Uragan may soon be taken away but it’s just one gun. 2a and Thompson are also there and DF don’t seem to give a crap about our feedback, they just buffed 2a for no damn reason. Well none of current BR2 Sov smgs belong at BR2 as they are using unrealistic rof anyway.
While I do agree M1A1 is poweful as fk in cqc atleast it has very notable downsides.
Slow as fk .45 and the peep creep sights are imo quite bad and definitely affects the mid-long range usability with slow bullets.
Infact I actually consider lanchester by far better option.
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If the pps42 is so much better than the gun I claim is ruining br2 then doesn’t that prove my point further that both don’t belong at br2.
My br1 bolt action paradise is getting tainted by smgs…
Br1 smgs should be really “meh”, and br2 only marginally better…
Smgs cast shadows over all other weapons…
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Bring all 30 round Tommy’s to 700 rof and place them at br3 everyone is happy
Japan and German don’t have to face an op smg at br2
And then us get a proper smg for br4, maybe just drop the 50 round to br 4 because what 10 is more rounds of 6.8 damage between friends right kiraly
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And once you remove all their BR2 smgs what will they use? PPD-34 or BR1 is their only choice. It’s a trap of overpowered smgs that Gaijin set up for themselves.
PPD 34/38 downtiered to BR II.
It is more comfortable to use. But definitely not better.
Anyway, lanchester is another former BR3 weapon that was lowered to BR2.
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Keep the pps42 at br2, perhaps with a nerf. Uptier the uragan and pps43. That leaves 2 br2 smgs and 3 br smgs and 1 br1 smg, not too bad. That would leave room for new additions.
I did read somewhere the PPS 42 had a rate of fire of 500 at times, so that could work.
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