Stop the SMG powercreep!

Now its getting ridiculous, PPS BR placements have been a heated discussion since the campaign merge - instead of finally removing super powerful SMGs out of low BR, we are getting more and more OP SMGs for the other factions to make up for this.

Now the Japanese BR1 Type 100 has gotten PPS43 like firepower - when will this end?

Guys - SMGs are overperforming and need to be addressed.

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It’s superior to pps43. Pps43 doesn’t have 7.2 dmg.

Now all smg type 100’s have basically identical stats, with a slight difference in recoils and so.

And apparently that’s not a problem, since they already have BR changes planned. So I guess it doesn’t matter that we now have BR3 performing smg in BR1. :man_shrugging::man_shrugging::man_shrugging:

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I appreciate the fact that the recent changes were made. They are working on making weapons more historically accurate and I respect that. I hope this trend continues to other factions. Who knows, we might get M50 Reising with 800 rpm (some could do that) and MP 35 with 650 rpm and MP 40 with 550 - 1100 rpm.

Either way, I have to admit it was done extremely sloppily. They should have been uptiered at the same time. I have a sneaking suspicion that they haven’t uptiered them yet because they are still working out the new BRs for the weapons - which in this case, they should have held off the update.

Better yet, they could’ve made all weapons in all factions more historically accurate, and just done a major update. That would’ve been much better in my opinion - that way everyone gets buffed and nerfed at the same time, not weird and unrealistic power differences.

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Hm okay, I am interested in this for sure, I assume that those incoming BR changes will be fuel for alot of future topics. Cant wait to actually see it happen.

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I think it was terrible change anyway. Like we need 3 weapons that plays literally the same. At this point, they’re basically just reskins.

What’s the point? Just to please some double standard HA crowd that’s not so big in the first place?

Same goes for change to Japanese BR3 MG. Now they’re extremely similar to each other.
What’s the point?

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Well its very balanced on BR II:





So i think its gonna be BR II after the BR changes however im not sure will they keep the damage.

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There’s nothing balanced about the weapons you have posted.

Literally all of them are overpeforming meta smgs that should go to BR3.

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They are overperforming only one faction :smiley:

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No, they’re overperforming vast majority of BR2 smgs. Stat wise they’re more comparable to BR3 smgs.

Not to mention there’s overall far less BR3 smgs than there’s BR2 smgs.

Those weapons simply have no place to be in BR2. And there’s no positive in them being in BR2.

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Some of these guns have been completely divorced from their historical stats, for example the early version of the type 100 smg had a lower rpm. Also now people want the mp40 to be buffed so it will become a bastardised version of itself when the mp40 at one point was considered the norm or even a above average br2 smg.

Without Axis allies balance between SMGs im not making a single step back now its the best time really I agree but first they fix the allies finally since their smgs dominated the lower BRs for a very long time. And for the Type 100 they can reduce its damage and leave it in BR II since its smaller caliber weapon.

Well not exactly in game we dont have the lower rpm version of the gun:

its easily recognized by the long tubular sword firing device .

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They should move the Uragan to BR3 with some love. (dispersion buff)
The M1A1 should also be replaced with a Thompson 20, accurate and fast like the Japanese Thompson. (Not a replacement, of course, we should bring the M1A1 back to BR3 with some buffs, it’s a historically important SMG)
The Type 100 and Type2a should also go to BR3.

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Tommy. yes ‘all’ 30 round thompsons to br3 none at br4 or br2

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This weapon is yet another display of sheer incompetence and carelessness by devs.

A BR2 weapon with BR3 stats. And it’s deeply buried in US tech tree. Somewhere in tier 4.

So it’s an exclusive weapon for veterans. Literally just pure seal club material. It’s not like average BR2 player can even get it.

And it has been like that for several months.

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I’d be happy to see this version put in game to fill the space that the old type 100 early filled.

You correct about this one, but the type 100 mg should have a 600 rpm but it now has a 1000 rpm.

Yes, They need to fire some people.

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Although I personally find the M1A1 to be fairly balanced, it is a very weak weapon at long range due to its dispersion and poor muzzle velocity. But the real problem starts where most of the combat in the US maps is at close range. So if a player uses their brains and doesn’t give away their position at long range, they can easily get in close and massacre the enemy team.
Therefore, this weapon should be enhanced for long range and upgraded to BR3.

Well there is many options they can reduce the damage of type 100 early and put it on BR II since its caliber is smaller. There is many options the Japanese SMGs cant do more damage then US SMGs or same damage also this version can be added there is many other early war Japanese smgs that can be given.