Stop branding enlisted as "realistic ww2"

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Recently I’ve seen a few creators play enlisted for a sponsorship but most of them have a script that tells them to say that enlisted is “a immersive ww2 game”. I like the Enlisted is reaching more people via these sponsorships but I feel as if some of these new players may be disappointed when they see Chinese in Normandy or captured panzershreks.

Here are a few of those videos:

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In this video the creator calls Enlisted a immersive ww2 game. (I don’t mean to insult the creator)

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I feel that the title and the script provided to the creator misrepresents modern enlisted.

Also the website claims:
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The website claims Enlisted has attention to detail and that each nation is completely different. This isn’t exactly true however as players can find troops wearing winter hats in Tunisia and captured panzershreks.

I suggest:

•if Enlisted does a sponsorship please give creators a updated script that reflects the new Enlisted

•update the website also to not be misleading

•implement the promised filter to maintain historical accuracy

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I have better idea how about we make enlisted realistic ww 2 game :smiley:

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well, the thing is, compared to most other WW2 shooters, this is still semi accurate to be honest.

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Even before the merge US soldiers landed in Normandy with sten and lanchester submachine guns, German panzer crews drove retired Panzer III B in moscow, but these were acceptable as these weapons and vehicles were at least correct for the faction and werent too far fetched from reality.

However Chinese soldiers speaking Chinese with Chinese guns storming Normandy is way too much for most people. Its deviating way too much from reality.

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Well, maybe just stop misunderstanding terms. :man_shrugging:

It’s quite pathetic to think it is not that.

People like you just can’t tell difference between realistic WW2 game and 1:1 reenactment simulation.

It’s your bad. And nothing more than pathetic dogma.

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Well they can reintroduce the campaigns when people can choosee the campaign they play so I can play my Chinese in Burma instead of being send by the CCP on a mission in the Ardennes :smiley:

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You think that Enlisted is historically accurate?

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Just ignore him, much like an alcoholic that sit at the main entrance to a building, he’s only here to scream insults at people. No point trying to reason with a known forum griefer.

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immersion is subjective.

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True, but I think most would agree that when enlisted promises attention to detail concerning uniforms and then has no insignias or unit patches and winter hats in Tunisia, not only does it fall short of what they’ve promised it also breaks most peoples immersion in a allegedly historicaly accurate game.

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There is a difference between movie/game accurate and a history lesson
Otherwise what ‘popular’ game movie would be considered accurate

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as sad and true it is.
most ccs are for the most part, spineless frendly-corpos.

all they do, is read the script, show the footage that they get linked within the promo emails and get the pay check.
they absolutely do not care if they partake in misinformation or deception. it’s all they do after all day long. ( which if you noticed, most scripts and footage are the same thing within each video. occasionally, the cc tries to be creative by adding some of his/her twists. but 8 times out of 10, it’s the same bloody thing )

and, most of them are dishonest to which they certainly do not want to screw their paychecks or future partnerships.

that’s yt for ya.

this game realistic?

adamn. pull your head out of your own posterioum. it’s not doing you any favor having out of touch takes.

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he’s just our grumpy forum grandpa that is spitting poison from time to time, no need to take it personal mate.

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is absolutely the core aspect of this debate, some dont mind anime girls with MP40 storming the Reichstag,
others go crazy over a German Soldier holding a STG, while carrying MP40 magazine pouches. ( which look almost the same for the unlearned)

Can the game have more historical accurate attention to detail? yes
Is the game introducing more stuff recently that could hurt ones personal WW2 immersion? yes, but again, I dare to say that Enlisted is still in a broad sense pretty immersive compared to 95% of other WW2 shooters.

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Yes.

Well, it depends on your perspective. For example, I remember that the same label was given to old MoH games. Which were extrmely unrealistic compared to Enlisted.

Of course, if you’re some nerd with a PhD in history via googling. And you expect gameplay and game design to be a second to reality. Then you just don’t understand what we’re talking about.

And you don’t understand that a game is still primarily a game. And not an attempt at a 1:1 historical simulation.

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ah yes.

"everyone knows that it is realistic being able to get entire platoon on the frontlines through a radio or a truck in less than 15 seconds.

everyone knows that realistically, people could build AA or anti tank cannon out of thin air from a hammer.

realistically, everyone knows that artilleries truck and vehicles were used for front line close range support. and NOT far behind lines out of reach from the enemies.

but of course, fool of me to forget that its completely realistic being able to take bullets like a chump because i have a thicker skin ( through some hipotetical perk ).

of course, it’s also realistic being able to tank damage with a 2 inch armor or helmet with no weight.

and it is very realistic being able to fire anti tank rifles while standing.

what you say?
it’s not realistic being able to heal magically any wound with a simple piece of cloth?"

fuck outta of here.

and you have the audacity of calling others " disingenuous or naive ".

:clown_face:

you are the one twisting words.

we, on the other hand, keep accountable people for theirs.

but we are getting sidetracked.

the issue here, are ccs and the marketing “chaps”.
both playing a major role in disinformation and setting false expectations.

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I would like some to list a popular WW2 game they would list as realistic

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people who have problem with immersion are those who are too educated in the ww2 and its weapons. people who have surface knowledge of ww2 dont have problem with immersion.

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As I said, it’s purely a matter of perspective here.

I bet I could safely claim about a game that you would call sufficiently realistic already. It’s not realistic enough from my perspective.

And then list a bunch of reasons that would just undermine game design and any aspect of the fun.

I bet that for most of those casual gamers, Enlisted is realistic to the core.
And it’s just your pure misunderstanding of the context in which the term is used. :man_shrugging: That’s pretty much all.

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yes and no.

point is,

realistic titles were set in stone by what some of them brought " on the table ", how they play, how they feel etc.

but it doesn’t stand.

realistic titles are not subjective.
immersion is.

hell, for what i know some people would find fortnite both realistic and immersion for whatever reason.

are they right? no.

aka, let’s take examples of actual realistic games.

insurgency sandstorm, six day in felusia, tarkov etc.

all of these 3 games are different. with different mechanics, different graphic, different gun plays and on and on.

but they all by all account realistic within the time frame of what it tries to do.

now, do they compare to enlisted? no.

so, what does?

squad 44, hell let loose, company of heroes serie, cod, and on and on.

to which all have to some extent, historical details and tries to replicate fidelity whenever it can.
are they all historical titles? no.

is it enlisted? no.

but again, within context of making sense.

enlisted is all sort of all over the place.

which tries to claim something that it is not. and it will never be ( without substantial updates ).

when you go around claiming that your game is historical accurate ( and recently, realistic ww2 ), and it is not. that’s called deceiving. that’s false advertisement.

which it’s what most people complains.

sure, there are fools who don’t know the difference.

but it’s like arguing that cheating is bad, yet some people cheats anyway.

does that negate the whole point? no.
it only reassures it.

by all accounts, enlisted is an arcade shooter by all means with sprinkes of realistic mechanics here and there.
do the few realistic mechanics that undermine the whole history of the actual war how it was, and what it was like actually make it realistic? no.

because settings and equipment are everything for a realistic game.
when you start seeing things that aren’t supposed to be there, it’s not about being realistic anymore.

( aka, chinese / moroc etc on tunisia. or italians in berlin. that’s not realistic in any way shape or form. unless we make teleportation canon. call them oversights, or shortcomings on the developers part, it still affects objectively the whole game. )

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