STG44 for everyone in Berlin

Everybody who plays Germany wants to use this gun, the world’s first mass-produced assault rifle. It was produced for more than 400,000: almost 3/1 of MP40. It was even equipped to everyone to 1st Infantry Division in Army Group South. This means that in 1945 it’s more common than many weapons, including this MP35 shit(Why don’t give us EMP44??), way too useless but still has a position in the tech tree. My suggestion is to give Germans STg44 as an end-game rifle rather than FG42(like you originally plan), to balance the extremely powerful PPsh41.

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In my opinion troopers shouldn’t have automatic weapons at all. I don’t like idea of everybody running with the best gun available, we can play CoD for that.

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Firstly, we already have three automatic weapons(avs36 in Moscow and FG, M2 in Normandie) for everybody. I believe it’s the direction that devs want to orient this game. Secondly, at least STG44 for everybody is way more realistic than M2 carbine or FG42 for everyone.

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I agree that it’s more realistic but it’s still stupid.
If everybody has access to assault rifle then why do we have soldier classes at all? It’s obvious that everybody will use it because of CQC character of the game.
We may as well remove all the other weapons and all classes (especially assaulter).

That’s why I think the whole concept of soldier class is stupid. We should have weapon limit rather than soldier limit for each squad. But since this game has already come into a non-wipe phrase I don’t except any big change in the future.

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In my opinion it would be the same thing in a result so I have no idea why would you spend resources on that.

Yeah, and because of that FG, M2 etc will probably stay as they are.

Giving everyone an StG will be just as bad and unbalanced as giving everyone a FG42 or M2. That concept needs to go away and not be expanded. Let’s give the StG44 to the assault class and lock all the other autos to respective classes as well

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That’s exactly the role that germans want STG44 to play: to replace MP40 which is highly ineffective in medium-range and Kar98K which is poor at supression, and leave Kar98K for sniper using. Assult rifle: a gun for every situation(considering most fight happens in middle range), and only germans have that at this time, and only germans have equipped a whole division with that.

Division, not entire army.
And that’s one of the reasons why it sould be class limited (so should be M2, FG, etc.).

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That makes sense. But considering we can equipp everyone with FG42 and M2, this is at least more acceptable.

Ah yes, because the follow-up to 2 the most hated weapons in the game should be an M2 with less recoil, judging by how it was implemented previously.

Either it’s a bait thread or the OP just wants a new crutch.

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Well i really like the StG 44 and it would be nice to have it in the Campaign! But when you look on the German Units we have ingame in the Berlin Campaign it may be not fitting to all of them. I mean Volkssturm Units with StG 44 is a bit weird and also not really historical. They mostly get older weapons, remains of stock from World War 1, weapons that was captured during the war (like French Guns or Polish) or Hunting Rifles. To see them all with some the most advanced weapons at the time would be a hit on the immersion - at least at my opinion.

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There is no immersion with this a-historical charlie foxtrot! :frowning:

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It’s actually a nerf compared with Normandie. Bots are better at FG42, 12.0 hit damage, and 750rpm. STG44 is only OP when used by yourself(due to its low recoil).

So we should bend the knee and take it in our a__?

What we should really do is bitch about it non stop until they remove them from troopers.

I am not even playing Normandy in the state it is now because of that. Don’t eat shit if they serve it to you.

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Still OP with no reason to use anything else.

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That’s an absolutely horrible idea.
FG-42s and M2s for everyone showed that

And seeing how you play, I don’t think it would help you

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STG44 would be great imo. I love to use it, but with a proper balance and testing, that could be a very good company for Axis. I see how the FG42 working now, and I gotta say I love that weapon. Smooth handle, good (decent) damage, and if you prone/crouch its an absolute beast, recoil is fine as well…

BUT

When I see how I can wipe squads with that (mainly in CQB) in streets or towns, It feels a bit strong against rifles, and subs…Damn man…This gun is a Devil, who seduce you to use it but still feeds you with remorse…

StG-44 and RD-44 in Berlin?
Hell yeah

But either one of them for every class?
Fuck no that’s awful for both balance and fun
Especially vs new players

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more like what it was but extremely restricted, 30 carbine is relaly an intermidiate it’s basiclaly an intermidiete between intermidieted and pistol