I honestly am convinced now that KV1 specifically causes too many issues, it is an almost impossible to stop beast in BR2 matches and is crazy strong in BR3 aswell.
I have just recently realised that because of overlapping armor it has an effective frontal turret armor thickness of 150mm, with a tiny weakspot at the sides of its turret of still 75mm - or the gun shield being 90mm with it being mostly angled.
KV1’s total frontal armor surface is at least 80% immune to even Panzer IV H 75mm L48 gun. If a skilled KV1 player manages to hide its lower half of the tank it becomes unbeatable.
This is much closer to Jumbo like armor than to other BR3 tank armor. Not to mention KV1 has a much better gun than Jumbo aswell.
I hate to say this, because I dont like this super early war tank fighting in high BRs - but I see no other way than to finally move it to BR4, every other option would force German BR2 and BR3 tanks to get powercreeped into madness levels.
Well it does in Enlisted, to be fair multiple tanks have overlapping armor with their gun shields for example Panther, but even Panther has less of such areas.
I dont know if such damage areas can be adjusted, but if it stays the description of its armor should be updated to 150mm of turret armor.
I personally struggle more against M4A2 Sherman in an uptier with Axis, its easy to destroy with HO-I thanks to type 2 HEAT with 90mm pen, but Axis have no HEAT shells on their Tech Tree squads anymore.
While I can at least somewhat reliably destroy KV-1s with Panzer III M or Puma.
Moving StuG F to BR2 would help a lot against both, but since devs added KV-1 zis-5, there is no chance to put KV-1 (L-11) back on BR4 and even worse many Soviet mains want to move that to BR3 (they are all delusional, it has even better armour).
I always drive KV1, and removes a lot of pig3n
At BR2, you have Stuka to banzai at kv1 ,GRB69, mander, wtf this post is crying about?
when KV-1 vs long 75 pz4,
I need to hit long 75 pz4 cheeks to pen
long 75 can pen my kv1 by hit the upper plate, which is larger
you still complaining?
What??? I’ll let you in on a secret, if you shoot from a Tiger 2 at a T34-76 that’s positioned like a diamond, it might ricochet. So, according to your logic, it should be moved to Br5? Or you shot at it with high-explosive shells
On the 2 br, the german has a Marder 2, with a 76mm cannon (a modification of the Soviet f-22) with a 120+ mm penetration, as well as a grb 39, which the kv-1 calmly takes on board . In my heart, I can’t understand how with the L48 you can’t punch the kv-1 into the forehead of the hull or into the cheeks of the turret, the cannon has a breakdown of almost 140 millimeters. Move kv-1 to 4 br so that it becomes an unplayable cactus? Does Jumbo have a worse gun than the kv-1? The Kv-1 with the L-11 has a 77-80 mm penetration, the zis-5 cannon has a 96 mm penetration, and the 75 mm m3 cannon has a 100 mm penetration. Question: where is Kv-1 stronger than Jumbo?
Well 120mm+ is not enough to shoot through 150mm+ turret armor
I am aware that lower chassis can reliably be penetrated - but, a skilled tanker will go hull down and protect his lower half, which usually happens automatically in maps like Stalingrad or Berlin.
Tiger 1 seems somewhat fair in BR4 - well the early version without its top MG at least, but Panther has always been OP in BR4.
Massive frontal armor that can not be penetrated by any BR4 vehicle and a heavy armored Turret that also has some overlapping areas… not to mention Panther has 190mm penetration.
