don’t know what suggestion you are thinking of, but I am talking about you calling for members to be removed from the forum unless they meet some arbitrary stat qualification, you seem to be dodging that, still haven’t heard what is your qualifying stat, is it games played? kills? time? and how much would they need to be cleared to talk on the forum?
I see, so basically a mob abuse mechanic is in place and actually has nothing to do with shitposting, just mob abuse, got it
deliver your stats and will see
Well yes and no. Usually its only used when someones “suggestion” or post is just absolute shit.
But im sure you are so special that you are in the group of 0.001% that simply gets abused.
it is not. choice was stay in the room and get found or get out of the room and avoid getting found (maybe by hiding somewhere). you were insisting that it is unrealistic scenario cause soldiers would find you either way. seriously stupid discussion when you are presented binary choice.
when both teams have same number of bot players, it is not a problem. when one team has big disadvantage in bot players it is a big problem.
you see… not my problem. it is their problem. i have problem when they are not building rally points, when they are sniping around cap point, when they are not defending/attacking points. the way i deal with that problem is that i quit. how they deal with their problem of me not being in their team is their problem.
you won’t see though because no stats are being delivered to you until you tell me what is the stat and number
Well yes, because that is exactly what is happening, judging a suggestion is purely subjective, and if a mob can be used in this manner, then we have a system on this forum that can easily be abused by any gang. Wonder how many it takes to successfully achieve that?
If I wanted to abuse that, I could. But I won’t, because I am not that pathetic, clearly others have no issue stooping so low
it just shows people have weak character if they cannot tolerate someones suggestion to the point they have to abuse a forum mechanic to try silence the other person
if you were already in the room, then you are likely already trapped, they won’t let you out
if you are already out of the room and hiding, then that’s like saying you were never in the game to begin with, so the comparison is dead
yeh but you don’t care about that when other players have to face that because you left, so why would anyone care what you want?
Well the thing is, it’s your problem too, because as we already covered, now you are increasing the amount of matches with bots and it’s an ongoing issue that you refuse to take responsibility for, but you want to push the responsibility on everything else except yourself, you even want to dictate how the other players play
I believe this has been explained countless times to you in your own shitpost topics where you were earlier suggesting this exactly same idiotic thing earlier.
I have faith in you that you will find the answers, regardless this is probably 10th? time your making this idiotic suggestion and you still seem to be surprised that communitys reaction to your suggestion still is the same.
Well im sure you are being haunted by forum ninja turtles, rather than your suggestion just being absolute trash for 10th time.
Posts dont get hidden by one people flagging. Just saying.
Well this is as said probably 10th time you are making this exactly same suggestion and expecting different results.
Perhaps you should create alt account so you would have atleast 1 another account agreeing with your suggestion ?
me now.
i quit many times before match even begins when i see shit game mode or map.
and that is why nobody cares what you want.
nope. have stats to prove it. when you enter game 40% of players ingame are bots. 20% of players quit. when you finish game 50% of players are bots. bot issue isnt player responsibility, neither it is “quitters” responsibility. it is you that wants to push that responsibility on players that want quality matches and it is you that wants to dictate how players want to play or not to play.
that is a lot of exaggeration and dismissing
yet the suggestion stands as excellent and would fix various issues overnight
I understand you have your mob and you don’t agree, but that won’t change anything, the suggestion would still work and would be effective and if mixed with some other suggestions, it would be perfect. Also anyone could bring a mob of people to abuse the forum mechanics to target an individual, that’s a flaw
I understand you guys need your easy wins against bots, hey, I just started doing the same thing, I quit too now
but it’s not the right culture to have in a game
I don’t think I have ever played a game where people quit matches as much because they are afraid of losing as in this game, it’s really bizarre that such a culture in a game exists, guess it’s a sign of the times
also I don’t care if no one agrees with my suggestion, I didn’t post it to win support, I just do it because it’s true and it’s worth saying whenever the topic is brought up
and your opinion might be that it’s trash, but mine is that it would actually fix several things for the game, therefore it’s worth mentioning
also shitpost by your definition would be anything you don’t agree with, not necessarily a shit post
so you just hate someone because they have a different opinion
prove it with stats.
Just going to skip over the crappy hypothetical now, because it’s just dead
It’s not about whether anyone cares what I want, It’s just about having my say, it doesn’t matter if no one else agrees, at least I got to say it
what stats you got that prove what? The stats below?:
But if those stats are generalized that still does not tell you per match what is the bot breakdown right? because as you said, they are not identified?
Also bots aren’t the ones quitting, players are, so of course that is player responsibility
quality matches are the last thing you are helping to achieve
you are creating more poor quality matches thanks to your match hopping and quitting, this is a player created issue due to the culture of the players engaging in it, look, I am now part of that problem too, because now I do it too…and I take responsibility for it, it’s my fault too now, because I joined the quit culture of this game.
I don’t want to dictate how players play, that is what you admitted to doing. I want to see players stick to matches so we have better matches, because the quit culture is responsible for making more crap matches, but you call it quality, because they are favorable to you, because your issue isn’t that the other team has more bots and less players, you just want to win more and lose less, I get it
It’s not something that needs stats to prove
It’s like saying prove that taking more game actions that provide more xp is going to provide more xp, of course it will, that is how it works, there is no stats needed to prove that, it’s just a fact of how things work
No, not really.
Well, fair share of said community said they would simply leave the game if your suggestion was ever taken seriously.
So we know for sure people would leave.
Yet not a single soul ever said they would come back to game / install the game if your suggestion would be taken seriously.
So unless you have some actual data that proves your suggestion would bring players, its just another shitpost from you.
it would work source trustmebro
Exactly why people have been asking for proper matchmake and exactly why they are working on proper matchmake.
Nice try.
Yeah, got to agree this game has some variety on its playerbase. I know theres that one guy at forums making absolutely stupid suggestion frequently and apparently hes expecting different results everytime.
Like seriously, can you believe these guys ?
So you just want attention ?
Well before you make any more of these posts I can tell you that even if you made million topics about the subject it wont become true.
Saves alot of time for you.
Sure it would regardless entire community disagrees with you.
No, not really. In this exact case it would also fit in definition of insanity.
Suggesting same idiotic thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Which most likely is the reason why your posts gets flagged too, since its been explained in detail to you countless times in your previous topics why your suggestion is absolute trash.
Its quite alot easier to just flag your posts than waste time trying to explain simple things to you.
Some people would learn if they were given a coloring book & crayons about the subject but I doubt it would help in your case.
So its just easier to flag your suggestions as spam, which they pretty much are.
Hate is quite strong word, id say we do not consider you as credible person to do this suggestions.
Perhaps you should try and gain some credibility by delivering your stats ?
Of course some would leave, so what? People already left this game because of the poor culture around it and you don’t care, so why worry about some others leaving because they can’t yet see the benefit to something they cannot comprehend because they are gripped by the fear of it without understanding it, like I said, together with this suggestion would be map choice & better balanced mm, so it wouldn’t be a solo implementation. However, even on its own it would still have merit and help.
Well the only data to exist there would be to survey people that don’t play anymore and ask them and hopefully they give an honest answer, if they care to answer at all. But also depends on how you word it
for example, i know that if I was asked a while back why I left and hadn’t come back, that would be the reason, because of the quit culture around the game and how bad it is for matches.
Now I realized that if I do it too, then I can avoid that also. But that is still not the right fix for this issue.
So I might not know the exact reason for each individual that hasn’t returned, and obviously there would be a range of other reasons. But I know, if someone told me a while back that virtually zero players were quitting matches anymore, that would have made me want to play more and stay with the game longer.
This is not shitposting btw, just blanket calling someone shitposting is getting a bit worn out now, it’s just you disagreeing with me, that isn’t what a shitpost is.
why would it not, it already works now
people are already saying that br won’t be a proper matchmaker, and people admitting they will continue to quite matches all the same, so I doubt this will fix the problem of quitters, people admit it openly they will continue to quit matches, so what makes you think that will change that?
not really, just post what I want to say, you the ones giving me attention, I don’t need it, but you keep giving it to me, you have a weird obsession with me, it’s really weird
It doesn’t matter if it doesn’t become true, it’s my time, I do with it what I want
mobs once thought the earth was flat, and even today there are groups that believe it, doesn’t mean they are right
Only by your false allocation of the definition, because you don’t understand that I am not expecting any results or different results, so you are again presuming incorrectly
Well that is all subjective, which means that in reality your refusal of the suggestion from my point of view is trash
As I have explained very simply why the suggestion would work and how, it’s not my fault if people are not smart enough to understand it or respectful enough to tolerate it.
Same applies to you, not even all the stats in the world would help you
Subjective opinion, again wrong, it’s not spam, because otherwise all forum posts would be spam, especially since the topic was raised again, and there are many other topics that raised again and again for discussion and people repeat their opinions over and over again, that happens in a forum, it’s how they work.
Well you are not a credible person to dismiss my suggestion, in fact, you are so lacking in intelligence, decency and respect, that you shouldn’t even be talking to me, as just having to explain simple things to you makes me feel like I am dealing with an immature child.
Stats will never be a substitute for credibility
but please, go ahead and tell me what stats you think would make me credible?
2000 game hours? 200k kills? 80% win rate? 3000 matches? what is your social credit score in stats to qualify someone as credible according to you?
This exactly is shitposting, as you are suggesting same shit that absolutely no one agrees with over and over again.
You even made more than few topics about the exact same thing and again no one agreed with you.
Not even your parents.
I still dont see them stats.
what is not identified? these are 100% identified bots prematch and postmatch. i can give you detailed bot analysis for every of 230k matches in past week. only thing that i have not 100% identified is MM bug matches. and that is cause of lack of data. i can only identify set of matches that fit MM bug criteria (and that is 3%), but to confirm it i would need other data.
majority of bots are put into game whether players are quitting or not quitting. players quitting only makes small part of bots.
if you want full breakdown here is topic, later posts are more relevant/accurate
nah… you just refused to accept it. i could have made hypothetical in magical world with tentacle monster, you would still find way to say hypothetical is impossible. you had binary choice, but you just had to introduce your (faulty) narrative to invalidate second choice.
of course you need stats to prove it. you are saying that players not quitting will magically fix the game. from what data are you getting that analysis? cause i have data from 230k matches that says that 80% of bots arent players fault.
OK all suggestions are welcome So none of this segregation or stats here and conversations not shut people down having a conversation And another reason I desert it’s because the servers are bad it’s so laggy they need to add oceanic Server
<>play enlisted against bots
<>get absolutely fucking arsestomped
<>be in the root of the gauss-curve in all aspects of life
<>don’t practice to get better
<>instead practice moaning harder than a 50y/o twilight twinkle porn star
<> finally get it:
<>“it’s not my fault that I suck more than a Hoover. It’s everybody else’s fault!”
<>Dunning-Kruger-effecting your way through the forums
<>spread the gospel
<>get absolutely fucking arsestomped by plebs again
<>ohno.png
<>go full denial
<>panic
<>stutter: “facts don’t need proofing”
<>Everybody: Nobody: “what?”
<>do animesmugface.jpg
<>“statistics don’t proof anything!1”
<>feel like an anime protagonist
<>from zero to a demigod of the internet
<>be DNAmodsNP
<>the legend
<>“You can’t prove facts!” gets etched to your tombstone
<>be year 2964
<>“Successfully degraded the intellect of the global community by a full decile”
<>Gold inlaid text in your mausoleum where technowizards go pilgrimage to check;
> Still no fucking stats posted
This guy
What is even happening anymore
Call me a masochist. But I don’t mind playing alone with 9 bots vs 10 players.
It’s hardcore hard and 99.9% you’ll lose the battle, but I’m the one with 5k points and the best on the winning team only 3k.
Or when you see a dude camps the whole battle and has 0 deaths and you kill him just before the end and you know he’s throwing the homosexual curse on you.