Someone's comment inspired me to make this

If you want punishment to deserters, join the fucking army then!!! Make sure you won’t end up being 200th cargo before you come back here and realize some stuff.

Deduction in progression? Get ready for mass uninstalls just for your “non quitter” players and some of your so called quitters also pay money.

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I think we should also introduce STATS as mandatory requirement when ever giving suggestions.
People with poor stats should only be allowed to read forums every other sunday, rest of time they would be blocked.

And ofc, if suggestions are silly enough, deemed by community the person who made this suggestion should lose atleast 10 levels and gear ingame and put on “probation” to earn back hes civic confidence, hes progression to redemption would be followed by STATS which would be onlything hes allowed to deliver to forums during hes probation obviously only every other sunday.

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so you want 20% of regular players to uninstall the game. yes gl with that.

You’re a real cunt aren’t you This game has problems bot don’t work properly matches are iffy and the maps are debatable And not everyone has time to waste we play because we want to enjoy the game we play so it’s not chore or a job

Punishing people for deserting is a non starter. If you try and force people to do something they don’t want to do, they will leave. You might think this is good. It is not.

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So you want to remove freedoms of some people, despite pretending to stand up for freedoms of others…

I don’t think you even understand the levels of hypocrisy that you consistently demonstrate on this forum

But I will entertain your trolling yet again, what stats exactly would qualify a person as poor stats vs not poor stats according to your clueless opinion? I am just curious if I would meet this fantasy cut off that you have created that would supposedly determine if a user could post suggestions or not…

If all it took to have someone blocked on this forum was a silly suggestion, then you would end up blocked permanently, especially if it was also based on rude antagonizing trolling behavior

did you and your creepy friends have fun stalking my replays? And looking at my stats the last time I provided them? You know you have to take it up with the moderators, they deleted and blocked my stat sharing thread…but you really need to get over this stat obsession, it’s really quite sad for a person to be so obsessed with anothers stats, would even call it psychotic at this point…stalking, demanding, projecting… all traits of psychos…

maybe such users would be limited on such forums as this, that would make sense to me

You clearly don’t mind wasting other peoples time when you quit matches and leave them to suffer, so why would anyone care about your time? All about me, me, me with you guys, the me, me, me patrol lol

punishments for quitting is just a punishment, you can still quit, that doesn’t change the game from being a game to being a chore or job, only thing that does that is your decision to either play, or not play, quit or not quit…You however, want to put yourself above everyone else

whereas I am saying, that has to come at a reasonable price, and right now, the price is not reasonable

The fact that people quit, is already a reason why other people left the game

so although you think quitting is good, it hasn’t been

and this would reverse that, and it would be the best thing for the game in the long term

losing a couple of selfish players would be a worthwhile sacrifice to gain an honest playerbase that would play matches and not abandon matches and cause the snowball quit effect

permanently dealing with the biggest issue in this game, the one side mass snowball quit effect would be one of the best things that could happen in this game, it would also help us to finally have close matches more often, instead of the most common outcomes, snowball results

this would boost game credit and reputation that would inevitably attract more players to replace the few losers that leave, it would be wonderful

nah… the fact that you cant choose your mode and map, constantly getting into teams with bots and console players is reason why people left the game.

yes it is good for mental health of players. staying in unfun games would just make people uninstall quicker

it is not few. it is 20% of playerbase. that is around 50 000 players. and no person quitting doesnt cause snowball effect. shit mode/maps cause that more often.

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that is another reason, but not the only reason, there is the one I mention and many others, but just mentioning another reason why people quit the game does not make another reason go away, it’s still there

What about the mental health of the players that remain in those unfun matches? if there are 8 players and 4 quit to preserve their mental health, what about the mental health of the 4 that remain? You are now the direct cause of the increase in mental anguish they have to suffer, if we are going to look at this fairly and not from a biased point of view

I doubt you would lose 20% of playerbase, just a few cry babies, the rest will say they will quit, but they won’t

especially if they did bring in map choice

more players would be able to enjoy the game if more players remained in matches to ensure balanced matches, but also we need a proper matchmaker, I don’t have confidence that this br system will be sufficient, because it doesn’t address the core issue of unbalanced matches, which is mass quit snowball culture and premade elite squads stomping single queue players

that is such stupid statement. seriously absolutely stupid statement. imagine you are in prison and you know that you are going to be raped if you stay in room. out of 8 people, 4 leave the room to avoid the rape. and now you are blaming those 4 people that left for not getting raped with those 4 players that chose to stay. rape was happening with or without those 4 people, you are just switching the blame.

20% of playerbase is regularly quitting the game. do you think that they will want to stay in game that forces them to play shit matches all the time? i know that i wont.

we will see desertion % when they bring in map choice.

more players would be able to enjoy game if there were more players. when you enter the game on average 40% of the players are bots. should i stay ingame for those 8 bots that are in my team?

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No, that is a stupid statement, firstly, never heard a case of 8 people being raped in a single room in prison, that would take a lot of people to subdue 8 people, besides, they would probably block the exit, so you wouldn’t be escaping, and they would likely have some sharp objects so you wouldn’t dare to think to escape

so your own example is working against you and helps me with my point that you will have a better chance if all 8 of you fight together or take it

but the reality is, if in that scenario the 4 of you tried to escape, you probably going to get stabbed and raped anyway :rofl:

you aren’t 20% and 20% won’t quit, if I had to quess, probably less than 20% of the 20% would really drop the game permanently, and probably most would come back later after their hissy fit :rofl:

that is true, desertion will still happen with map choice, because desertion is tied to snowball effect and avoiding certain players and teams

You would have more players if so many weren’t quitting all the time

you don’t realize you are the creation of your own problem

you say that you don’t want to play with bot teams, but you are placed with bot teams more frequently because you abandoned human players, creating more matches with more bots, and if the culture of this game has many players doing the same, then those players are creating that situation, not the game

why was this message hidden? I don’t understand the problem with it

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cause you never heard of hypothetical. then imagine them being 8 women in war time situation that will be found and raped if they stayed in a room and go to hide. you heard of rapes in war? you heard of war crimes? will that satisfy your hypothetical brain.

even when enemy has 10 jacked people and knives? and you only couple of unarmed thin guys. and instead of fighting in a fight you dont stand a chance, you have an option of leaving to avoid getting raped?

you overestimate this game. neither this game is so good to be best out there, neither is this game irreplaceable.

also you are blaming players for mechanism that DF introduced.

  1. bots are not transparent
  2. you dont have a choice in map/mode
  3. you cant turn crossplay off
  4. when you are against 13 players with team of questionable humans
  5. stacks are unbalanced.

and you are blaming players for quitting when they are playing shit game modes like assault/train/conquest, when they are stacked in a team with 6 console players against team full of PC players, when your team is full of bots or when you are against veteran stack of highly coordinated players.
not to mention when your team doesnt build any rally points, is sniping all around capture point

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I don’t mind hypotheticals, they are fun

but unfortunately that one just doesn’t make sense with the real life scenario being compared to

even if as you say 8 women in a war time situation, you think the offenders will give them a chance to run away? I doubt it. They would surround them or find a way to restrain them after they caught them and probably shoot any that were too much trouble

which brings me to the other crucial downfall to your ridiculous hypothetical comparison

female prisoners of war aren’t volunteering to be in that situation, they are there against their will, same with any rape victim scenario you want to conjure up to compare…playing a video game by choice is not the same thing as being a target of a crime, you are literally saying that playing a match in enlisted would be like facing a real rape scenario if you could not quit matches :rofl:, that is so ridiculous it’s beyond words

no game is irreplaceable, there are so many games nowadays, but still, if there was a better game than enlisted for ww2 shooters, I would probably be playing that instead of this, so name me that game, so I can check it out.

  1. Why would bots have to be transparent?
  2. True map mode choice would be great, but we already agreed people quit matches for other reasons also
  3. Without cross play you would have even more bots in matches because less human players
  4. I don’t disagree that this game would need better matchmaking system, and not convinced br will be sufficient to solve that issue
  5. Yes unbalance is an issue, but quitting matches only makes matters worse, doesn’t help

I do understand your concerns and I also support your choice to quit games

but if the game did a better job in other areas, like giving you choice of maps and qualifying conditions for matches, then you would have less reason to want to quit

I would like to see those things being considered, so that punishment wouldn’t need to be the only real solution

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quite sure thats exactly what you are asking

but thankfully ive got decent stats

you havent provided the stats.

Im sure theres alot of things you dont understand and therefor you should just leave the thinking for others.

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cause we have right to know if we are in PVE or PVP match.

bots are sometimes more useful than console players

i was talking about MM bug that is pairing 13 players against 10. last time i dug out data it was around 3% of total matches that are suspected to have this bug.

yes it helps very much with me having not a bad time.

cause people never hid from soldiers. imagine that for real life scenario…

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nope, you can still quit matches, it would just come at a more reasonable cost to deter people more from doing it

whereas your suggestion would actually stop someone from talking on the forum and having an opinion, just because you don’t like their opinion and you would tie that to some arbitrary social credit score based on game stats, which I am still waiting for which stat you want and the number to qualify

what stat do you have that makes you qualified to talk and someone else not qualified to talk?

That’s like when someone expects you to read their mind, I don’t read minds, if you have a reason why that post was hidden, why not just come out and say it? Why you hiding the reason? Or is it because you also don’t know and are pretending to know?

plenty of thinking to go around, if you don’t like my thinking, too bad, it’s not a crime to think, at least not yet that I am aware of

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well if you hid from soldiers and they never found you, that becomes even further from a comparable hypothetical

fair enough, I thought you meant the actual bots in game world

ok, but you also have an issue with bots, so you can’t seem to win whatever you do in that case

I see, yes that doesn’t help either

Sure it helps you, but we already covered how that is an issue for the game and the other players…

No it wouldnt ? My suggestion would merely give people reason to improve ingame.
Infact my suggestion would most likely save the game and make everyone useful, unlike yours that would make people just quit.
Infact my suggestion probably would make people improve so much that this game could be next CSGO with massive e-sport scene due to everyone improving so much.

posts often get hidden once enough community members flag them as shitpost or what ever.
Im sure you are familiar with this.