Solothurn TEST Vs Semi-Auto AT Rifles = BR 1

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I was really unsatisfied with the announcement that the Solothurn would be BR 2 after we finally got the PTRS 41 moved to BR 1

So… I took all the Semi Auto AT rifles, made a shooting range in the Editor

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NOTE: Flank shots are easy for all AT rifles (Except KV 1). All findings are from the front on level ground at serviceable ranges. i.e. not standing closer than 50 meters Infront of a tank. Front on is the most likely scenario, with angling making it even harder in some cases

TLDR: All AT Rifles are effective in BR 1/2. All AT rifles are as useful/useless as each other in BR 3 and only on the “RAREST Tanks”.

@Euthymia07 @YuiHibiki Solothurn Bipod recoil is Broken (worse than no Bipod)

Visual of Recoil

Prone NO Bipod
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Prone WITH Bipod
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Summary of Versus BR 1-2 Tanks

BR 1-2

  • The Solothurn Can’t deal with “1 out of 7” USSR tank and “1 out of 9” USA tank frontally
  • The Type 97 can do everything the Solothurn can with no downsides
  • The PTRS 41 Cant deal with “1 out of 12” Axis Tanks

Conclusion: All relatively effective against their own target criteria

Summary of Versus BR 3 Tanks

BR 3

  • Solothurn can pen 3 out of 8 USSR/USA tanks (Very hard Kills, specific Pixel point weakness)
  • Type 97 can pen 1 out of 8 USSR/USA Tanks (Very hard Kill, specific Pixel point weakness)
  • PTRS 41 can pen 2 out of 7 AXIS Tanks (1 Easy kill, 1 Very Hard kill Pixel point weakness, 1 Easy mobility Kill on a tank destroyer)

Conclusion = Rather Pointless at BR 3 (The only Tanks that have a remote chance of being Pixel Penned, are the rarest tanks at BR 3. Ineffective, No reason to use over Launchers

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  • Type 97 Has Extremely low recoil (almost none on bipod) and no conditions
  • PTRS 41 has moderate Recoil and no conditions
  • Solothurn has Massive Recoil and Prone/Bipod condition

Green = Easy Kill
Orange = moderate kill
Red = Hard kill
Purple = Forget it just flank)

Results

PTRS 41 Front on (BR 1 and 2 tanks)

  • Panzer II - Straight through Front plate/driver, turret Cheeks(Easy Kill)
  • Panzer IIIB - Straight through Front Plate/turret, turret cheeks (Easy Kill)
  • Panzer III E - Straight Through Front plate/Turret Cheeks (Easy Kill)
  • Panzer III J - Machine Gun port (Hard Kill, can ammo rack through MG port)
  • Panzer III J1 - Machine Gun port (Hard Kill, can ammo rack through Mg port)
  • Panzer IV E - MG port, Driver Port, Turret Cheeks (easy/moderate Kill)
  • Panzer IV F (Disable tracks only)
  • Marder III - Gun Crew (Easy disable/kill)
  • Puma - Driver Port, Turret Cheeks (easy Kill)
  • Semovente Lower glacis, Transmisson Kill, Can hit engine (fire), (easy Mobility Kill)
  • Ab-41 - Straight through front (Easy Kill)
  • M14/41 - Straight through front plate (Easy Kill)

Solothurn Front on (BR 1 and 2 Tanks) Type 97 Same Results

  • T-60 driver Port only (Easy/Moderate Kill specific spot)
  • T-26 Straight through front plate, Turret cheeks (easy Kill)
  • BT-7 Straight through front plate, Turret cheeks (easy Kill)
  • T-70 Cant Pen (Disable Tracks only)
  • T-50 Can only Pen Turret Cheeks (Easy kill (due to small crew)
  • T-28 Driver Port, lower glacis, Turret cheeks (Easy Kill, lots of crew though)
  • T-28 E Gun Mantlet and Specific spot on lower glacis (Hard kill, specific spots, lots of crew)
  • M2A4 Straight through front plate, Turret cheeks (easy Kill)
  • Daimler Straight through front plate, Turret cheeks (easy Kill)
  • A13 Straight through front plate, Turret cheeks (easy Kill)
  • M3A1 Straight through front plate, Turret cheeks (easy Kill)
  • M3A 1 Flamer Straight through front plate, Turret cheeks (easy Kill)
  • M5A1 Gun Mantlet, turret ring only. (Hard kill, really small target)
  • Crusader front plate (easy-Moderate Kill, specific spot)
  • Grant Possible to Pen next to 75, but really hard. Considering the amount of shots needed to do any real damage, and the fact the turret and MGS will be operational the whole time. just Flank (Disable Tracks only)
  • M3 Lee can pen left turret cheek, sometimes driver port (Very Hard Kill, lots of crew suggest flank)

BR 3 Tanks Solothurn Front on (Type 97 could only Penetrate the Sherman II through vision slit)

  • T-34 (VERY unlikely kill, have to Hit in Exactly the right spot repeatedly)
  • T-34 (1941) (VERY unlikely Kill, have to Hit in Exactly the right spot repeatedly )
  • T-34 57 (forget about it)
  • KV-1 (forget about it)
  • Sherman II Driver port, MG vision port (Hard Kill, squeeze through vision slots)
  • M4A1 (Forget about it)
  • M4A2 (Forget about it)
  • M4A3 (105) (Forget about it)

BR 3 tanks PTRS 41 Front on

  • Marder III H Gun Cheeks (easy kill/disable)
  • Stug III F (Easy COMPLETE Disable, Flank)
  • Panzer IIIN Penetrate MG port (Hard kill, Can kill most of crew, not recommended…)
  • Panzer IV F2 (Forget it Flank Only)
  • Panzer IV G (Forget it Flank Only))
  • Panzer IV J (Forget it Flank Only)
  • Panzer IV H (forget it Flank Only)

Interesting observation: German 75mm guns have Large muzzle breaks making it easy to hit the Barrel. Marder, Stug III and Panzer IIIN (no muzzle break) all lose their barrel with 1 hit from PTRS 41

Panzer IV F2, G, J and H dont appear to be damaged the same. (will not break)

Conclusion

Even with the Prone limitations the Solothurn is fun. HOWEVER This is a “Limited Edition” BP Weapon for a Nation that Doesn’t have a semi Auto AT rifle. Its results do not justify it, especially considering the Bipod/prone condition. Relatively other AT rifles are just as effective/pointless at BR 3 (uptier happens alot). It should be at BR 1 with the others (especially the Type 97). Also, USA is lacking a Semi Auto AT Rifle and has the worst performing standard AT rifle

For future reference I suggest the Winchester William 50 cal AT rifle

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Try below the 75. There’s an ammo rack there that has very little armor in front of it. Got kills in practice with a 37 mm.

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I have that written in the results

I can count it if you want, but I found it extremely unreliable after trying to pinpoint it for a while

requires a specific angle, multiple shots, and often doesn’t squeeze through, Plus the Command Turret. driver and MGs are fully functional while you are plonking away trying to squeeze it through.

I went with Reliable penetration

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Fair

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Imo it makes sense for Solothurn to be “german type 97”. There is really nothing extraordinary about it in comparison.

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Indeed. Basically what all that text comes down to

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The recoil problem is known

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tell the devs to remove the dumb bipod only mechanic too