Change my mind, PPS 43 is a BR3 gun - fast rate of fire, laser accuracy.
not to mention PPS 43 + body armor is still pretty much cheating.
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Should have been moved to BR3 along Pps42 and Type2a when Mp40 and Lanchester were BR3.
But DF prefers to bully new players instead.
This might be only my take but Pps42 and 43 are pointless on the same BR, infact very few people use the Pps43 because 42 has much lower recoil and more ideal fire rate for BR2.
So pps43 should be moved to BR3 and slightly buffed, so it has less recoil making it an alternative to stick mag ppsh.
BR2 already has obrez ppsh as an alternativ to pps42 anyway.
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Nah don’t move pps 43 just make it more harder to control+dispersión since of we follow the lógic of better rof = worst dispersión and recoil
But seems that this don’t applies when it comes to the ppsh box…
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its the dps that is crazy for BR2 - PPS42 might be more accurate, but the lower rate of fire is definitely noticeable.
you cant beat PPS43 + body armor, MP40 is a joke compared to that, heck the only thing you can do to compete is taking the Beretta and OVP to have a chance in close range, but those obviously have their own issues.
PPS 43 is superb and is easily the strongest BR2 gun in the game.
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PPSH BOX has literally better dispersion than G41.
That this BUG is still not fixed is beyond me.
And no, I refuse to believe it being a feature. This is ridiculous.
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No
This is called “asymmetric balancing”
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oh yeah you are right - in return Germany has body armor right?
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Troll spotted?
Do come back with actual arguments though
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I should say the same.
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I use both PPS42 and PPS43 at level 2 with no preference. Do I think the PPS43 should be moved up? IDK. Maybe if I played strictly Germans, but since I play both, IDK. However, I wouldn’t be crushed if it were as I can still use the PPS42. For me, the trade off between Germans and Soviets is the Soviets have the better smg’s, while the Germans have the better MG at level two. I love the Soviet RPK1943, but it is BP and only has the 15 round mag which sucks.
I think DF should move the MP35 from level three to level two. I have two MP35 level two smg’s which have shorter barrels and really like them, but I like the ZK-383 so much better then the MP at level three so I never use the level three MP35. If DF moved the PPS43 up, IDK if it is any better then the PPSh-41and would might just go unused at level three.
I use an Erma level two squad, along with four suppressed Erma’s along with my level two MP35 for most of my German level two smg’s, and add in the M1 Beretta to fill out my squads. But if the MP35 were lowered, I would use it instead of my Beretta’s/
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you are arguing against people who fix g43k for being “historical inaccurate” while keeping federov burst mode which is also “historical inaccurate” yet it havent get fix
i dont think they will fix the ppsh41 box bub
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Heres the thing - there is a certain degree of dps or time to kill that will make you kill your enemies so fast, that it doesn’t matter if you had an even faster time to kill.
I personally think for SMGs this starts with 700 rpm and reaches its peak at 800 rpm - everything above is pure preference and not really needed.
However, there still are a couple benefits super rapid fire grants - PPSH for example can still work in BR5 despite its very severe damage drop compared to assault rifles, specifically because of its zero recoil as long as you shoot long enough you can still attack targets at 100m distance.
BR2 SMGs are weak on purpose, there are a few exceptions like OVP and other top loaded SMGs, but those have terrible sights for example, PPS42 is already great, but PPS43 reaches without a doubt the BR3 category of guns.
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I always find it interesting that people always mention the PPS as being OP at BR2, but no one is paying attention to the Owen, even though the Australian gun has almost identical stats to the PPS-43.
As for pushing the PPS-43 to BR3 ? Maybe, but to be honest that won’t really change much, many people use the 42 over the 43 (imo the 42 is good enough and while being more comfortable/easier to control than the 43). At BR3, the 43 won’t really be used because even though it would have good stats compared to other BR3 , the ppsh box is too busted to consider the PPS-43 as an alternative.
Final point, people always mention the MP-40 as being Germany’s top dog smg at BR2, but it is not the case. The beretta M1 is almost identical to the MP-40 but has +20% ammo per mag. Imo the beretta is really good at its BR and while it is behind the soviet smg, germans have so many good things at BR2 while the soviets only really have is their PPS.
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No, because it’s the only good auto weapon in br2, you can’t play with madsen and pps42
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Both of the are stuck with 500 rpm which severly limits their DPS, even though MP40 could have 550 rpm historical and Beretta M1 is actually incorrect since their actual fire rate was 550 only, the 500 rpm we have in game is incorrect.
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I would love to like the owen gun, But the iron sights just dont work with me 
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Dunno, BR2 would be even more boring with options of PPS42 (where is no much difference from the 43 to begin with) and the PPD34, not counting the Croation PPSh no one uses.
Boring? You know Soviet SMGs need? Diversity, they all shoot fast and have no recoil, why not let them have a PPS at BR2 that for once shoots slow.
Isnt the PPS rate of fire incorrect anyways?
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Dunno, are there many non-captured or land-leased weapons they can use?
Diversity barely exists on Soviet side in real life in terms of guns if we exclude foreign and proto stuff and tbh I think proto is also getting scarce since they already used several ones.