It´s propaganda footage… it´s suppose to look impressive
It was done and alot especiatly during assaults. its estimated that about 45.000 small arms ammunition was spent to get single kill on enemy this probably includes quite a shit ton of suppressive fire.
How ever as we dont have suppression ( Thank god ) we might as well keep the accuracy of LMG as it is and no, you cant shoot while running with LMG just tried it.
but their infantry and snipers are op
He could, but there really is no need. Some lmgs can easily be hipfired without problems, even today. Take the usa m249! That buzzsaw IS a lmg. Are soldiers always slowly crouching before firing it? No…
Depends on the round caliber.
Mg34 could be hipfired.
Mg42 could also but was difficult.
There also was special stances to adopt while hipfiring:
Hipfiring lmgs was, and is a thing. Ppl disliking it should start using ppsh to counter german lmgs or start realizing how amazing the dt29 is.
Oh yeah, my colleague’s Grandpa was saved from a mauser round by the stock of his Bren. While he stormed the beach. He wasn’t prone nor crouching… and did gun down the assailant with his stockless Bren the second after…
With SMGs at the front and LMGs in the back giving suppresive fire I assume? Not LMGs being at the front aswell.
I didn´t mean it litteraly. Right now you can walk normally while shooting an LMG from the hip without having the recoil of the gun affect your movement speed. Aka there is no shooting move speed penalty when there should be.
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and just because i m portuguease:
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Yes, exactly. German LMG’s never were on the front as they were deployed at barracks in Germany.
They had special assault drums even made to LMG’s to make assaulting easier.
But some butthurt allies were crying over how LMG’s cannot fire and move at the same time so germans were forced to keep theyr LMG’s were they were deployed.
Rumour says theres still some german LMG squads stuck somewhere in ardennes as they cannot move because theyr bipod got stuck and that means theyr LMG is deployed.
So you want the germans “realisticly” do moonwalk while shooting LMG ?
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You know if you can´t counter my arguments with valid points you just look like a salty idiot who doesn´t have anything to say. So how about you shove it up your rear and stop wasting my time with your written diarrhea.
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Its been numerous times now proven that LMG’s were used on hipfire.
How about you for a change prove your point that LMG’s were only used as supporting weapon not while assaulting ?
I also pointed out that the LMG’s already move significantly slower than others while walking with LMG.
Apparently it isnt enough for you as I suppose our pov on significantly is completely different.
For me it means you are actually ALOT slower than the others while moving with LMG.
Ive got no idea what your idea of it is perhaps it should be entirely still ?
3 Words. SHOOTING MOVEMENT SPEED. Again, SHOOTING MOVEMENT SPEED. Aka your movement speed while shooting your gun. There is a movement speed penalty, wich is what you´re talking about but no shooting move speed penalty. LMGs can be fired from the hip yeah I don´t have anything against that but look at footage of people doing it. Do you see a common trend? They don´t fucking walk around while doing it. Unless it´s a controllable gun they stand and shoot then. If you stand still you´re already not very accurate but moving only adds to that.
Nice! The Portuguese even added a grip for their mg42 version. I wonder why that is since ppl in this trend claim hipfiring cannot be while using a big bad lmg…
In the end, if a lmg user has an enemy 10m away from him there’s no reason he should not hipfire him. Like in the game, hipfiring only really works while very close, in buildings, etc. If the enemy is very far, then by all mean I jump down and hope I’ll have the time setting my lmg up…
To add up, here’s a guy unloading a m60, a weapon using a round of similar caliber as the mg34 used…
Even better: Grandpa firing a m60 FROM THE SIGHT while standing, doesn’t get better than that… But hipfiring lmgs is completely impossible.
Can you guys stop your circlejerking already? Jesus christ it´s just so sad. We get it you want to use your LMGs like SMGs just shove it already.
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Can you guys stop your crying already? Jesus christ it´s just so sad. We get it you main anything but Germany and want it nerfed, so just use your SMGs (like I do) and just shove it already.
That´s funny because I also main germany on Normandy. But you two are playing yes man with eachother instead of starting a discussion with those people you are talking about. So either do that or make a new thread. Because you´re changing the minds of exactly 0 people here. You don´t have to respond. Just do it or don´t.
Oh, but it is related to the OP. Claims hipfiring shouldn’t be allowed or almost impossible. We brought proof it was a thing, and still is a thing even today with a plethora of different lmgs… If you can’t stomach opposite arguments than yours, well that’s on you. Avoid the internet, it’s a dangerous place…
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Something I liked about BFV’s innovations was the more hardcore/realistic mechanic where MMGs could be fired from the hip with a lot of spread at any time but were able to shoot with precision only when aimed down sight while in a prone or braced position.
If I remember correctly this is also the case in other historical shooters such as Hell Let Loose, Post Scriptum, Verdun etc.
While Enlisted makes some awesome moves towards “softcore realism” by featuring faction specific weapons, modular vehicle damage models, fast TTK etc at the same time keeping it fun and not becoming a running simulator, I feel like MG mechanics are too arcadey right now.
Presently, weapons like MG-42 are basically used as assault rifles with rifle round in the game - you can run and gun, ads as much as you want. Now, I don’t think MGs are OP nor do I want to kill any fun in using them, but what do you think?
Would this mechanic make heavy MGs more like what they’re supposed to be?
Personally I’d welcome this change, the only balancing issue might arise with some factions having light MGs like FG-42 or BAR and others (USSR) lacking something similar.
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Please tell me where he claims that? I think his post is very resonable and doesn´t overcompensate like you and your buddy do. LMG in Enlisted are used half the time as SMGs and that´s true.
And that´s especially funny coming from you.
… in the very TITLE you dolt 
No he doesn`t?
Exactly, which is already so significant that theres no need for your suggested “WhILE fIriNG yoUr WeApoN WiTh AutOMaTIc FIrE moOnWALk Is PenLty Move HurDurHarDUR muST be LeSS spEEd”
Yeah, this is game videos were IRL. Theres quite significant differency there too.
Its probably prohibited in quite many shooting ranges.
i like this one after 50 sec till the end.
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