I think the Soviets need an alternative to the Madsen in the BR2 machine gun niche. It already exists, only in the gold order weapons. We can’t just add the RPK-43 to the tech tree. That’s why I suggest adding a reskin of the RPK-43 to the tech tree.
But which skin should we choose for the new weapon?
Maybe this?
Like we need more of copypaste. We already have 2 AVS in tech tree.
Remove AVS autorifle from techtree, and change AVT/20 for AVS/20. Minimum copypaste.
The federov avtomat can be mg but it needs to get fire rate nerf to like 400 it its realistic value. Damage can be lower if it doesnt have running penalty but running nerf can be added with normal mg damage.
Provide a source that is at least somewhat reliable.
No need, thanks. Soviet BR2 SMGs have already turned my fellow Soviet mains into brain-dead zombies. Want actually fun Soviet MGs? Try the BR5 RD-44 instead.
Comparison of warm and square.
RPK 1943, replace the 15 round magazine with a 20 round magazine and add to the level two tech tree.
Base BAR 1918 dropped to the level two tech tree.
MG 13 gets a horizontal recoil reduction.
Hotchkiss Japanese MG gets added to the level two tech tree.
I asked for a reliable source, not Wikipedia 
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Why are people trying to put the AVS-36 in BR2…
BR2 lmg bingo:
Automatic weapon 
Rifle cartrige
Small mag
Early war aesthetics = low BR
Not a madsen
I understand you’re looking for a reliable source, not just Wikipedia. The thing with the Federov Avtomat is that there are actually two main, conflicting values regarding its rate of fire that appear in various sources:
It’s genuinely difficult to pinpoint a single “true” rate of fire because the historical data is inconsistent, and different models or testing conditions could have yielded varying results. This is a common issue with very early and rare firearm designs.
Regarding the suggestion to implement the Federov Avtomat as an MG at BR2:
I think that the Federov current placement at BR5 is problematic. The Federov Avtomat is a truly hybrid design – something between a lmg, an ar, and a sf. At BR5, where other factions have more guns that look assault rifles (like the STG44 or AS 44), the Federov simply doesn’t fit well and its better than other ars.
Placing it as a lmg at BR2 with nerfs could make it more balanced within the game.
Game balance 
RPK 43 overbuffed? Or what?
Great idea. We already have things like M2 carbines as both ARs and SF rifles, as well as literal copy-pasting without even changing models (Type Hei 10, looking at you). This would be a great addition, both historically accurate (timewise and due to how AVS’ were used) and balanced (Ofc stats must match other BR2 MG stats).
All modern Russian bibliography indicates a rate of fire of 600 rounds per minute. Late and early Fedorov Avtomat have no differences in the principle of operation of the automatic, the differences were not significant at all. Obviously, when working with Russian weapons, it is better to use Russian sources, just as when working with Japanese weapons - Japanese sources. I note that 600 rounds per minute is found in all Russian literature, the same figure is given by the much-respected Chumak Ruslan Nikolaevich - Colonel, Candidate of Technical Sciences, Head of the Artillery Collections Department of the Military Historical Museum of Artillery, Engineering Troops and Signal Corps in St. Petersburg, who has access to all modifications of the Fedorov Avtomat and all documentation. In his latest book dedicated to the 150th anniversary of Vladimir Grigorievich Fedorov, he indicates the same 600 rounds per minute. There is no confusion, the Americans are simply indicating the wrong rate of fire, as was the case with the Japanese Type 99 machine guns and the Type 100 submachine gun (early).
Fedorov V. G. Gunsmith, scientist, officer / R. N. Chumak; Department of Culture of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Military History Museum of Artillery, Engineering Troops and Signal Corps. - St. Petersburg: VIMAIVS, 2024. - 94, [1] p. : ill., port., color ill.; 21 cm. - (Series “Weapon Creators”).; ISBN 978-5-6052676-2-1
Natsvaladze’s book - “Weapons of Victory”.
Book by Popenker
I don’t know what problem is. To bring. Зб-26. Because the Madsen was so rare weapon of beginning of Great Patriotic war.
Zб quitmore often - especially with compare to Breda mg.
You can find lots of photos with so soldiers equipped with zb-26.
Since we have ofenror ror us and american automatic rifle for a Japan, PPsh for Germans, Zb - is best solution for Soviet br2 mg problem
Then I was transferred to the headquarters, I didn’t like it here, so I asked to join the squad and became an ordinary soldier in the 7th battalion. By that time, we already had eight battalions, a large formation with at least three thousand soldiers. A month later, I was made a machine gunner in my department. I was armed with a captured Czech ZB-26 machine gun, which we took from captured Germans. It was a good machine gun, light, and had a 20-round magazine. Then, about a month later, I was made a squad leader, still in the same battalion.
The entire battalion was armed with captured weapons of the First World War, Czech weapons: rifles, light machine guns – all Czech. By the way, in the 41st year, many were so armed, both in the people’s militia and everywhere else – there were a lot of captured weapons. It was all preserved somewhere in warehouses after the First World War, well, it was de-preserved and we were armed. Interestingly– the First Petrozavodsk battalion was armed with our guns, Russians, I know from the photos, and we were armed with Czech weapons. Young guys like me were given carbines.
In January, we were equipped and sent to Moscow on January 20. I served in the 367th Separate Artillery and Machine Gun Battalion, 152 units. They gave me German rifles, German machine guns (I was a machine gunner, I had a Czech machine gun from the Skoda factory. Everything was blackened and did not rust, and when the DT was given, it was covered in burrs, besides it was a little wet - it was already rusty and needed to be cleaned), the cartridges and we stood between Gzhatsky and Mozhaisk in the MZO (Moscow Defense Zone).
There was only one battalion for the whole battalion, but it was Czech-made, in the city of Brno. He had it written. A light machine gun. The city of Brno was knocked out. We’ve studied it too. They were disassembling and assembling, so there was only one light machine gun.
Suddenly, sometime in 1942, by the spring, 14 American machine guns were brought to the battalion and distributed. It would seem that 1942, maybe, was brought to Murmansk somewhere, and suddenly there were American machine guns in Anapa! “Thomson.” What were they like? A short wooden bed. Very comfortable. Compared to the carbine, they are not bulky, the horn is straight. It’s not like 24 rounds in one horn magazine. We ask: “Where did we suddenly get American machine guns?”. No one told us anything. It surprised us all to take it apart into small pieces down to the last detail - just one screw. Where the bed is, the breech is the tail rotor. I unscrewed this tail screw and disassembled everything. It surprised me that the whole machine is assembled on one screw. They were distributed. We had a reconnaissance platoon and they were all sent there.
I think the Madsen is fine and I honestly have no idea why people hate it. This is not bait this is not a joke, I genuinely just like the Madsen as a BR2 MG. Also Madsen > RPK 43
