Reworking the Rate of Fire of Rifles in Enlisted

I want you to try something. Go in to practice with a semi-auto rifle. Aim down sights, click to fire, imagine that you continue to click, and time out a second and a half. See how long it takes to get frustrated.

If you want to really be annoyed, try that in a match.

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It’s nothing exceptional, just ask Google.

Is this even serious suggestion, lol?

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Upon closer inspection i updated the rate of fire figures


here is from quora on AR15, not full rifle caliber, but it is just about how fast you can pull the trigger.

An AR 15 doesn’t shoot any bullets on its own. Neither does any other semiautomatic weapon. An AR 15, like all the others, is a tool. It is designed to send one bullet down range each time the operator pulls the trigger. How fast can the operator pull the trigger? That varies with the operator. I have been cautioned by range officers because they hear me doing rapid fire. For me, that’s around six per second. I used to play saxophone, and I developed fairly fast fingers. Others, especially pianists, are faster. Even so, eight per second is about as fast as I’ve ever encountered. At that speed, aiming is basically “broad side of a barn,” if you can control the muzzle rise.

here is another

Thats a pistol with pistol calibre cartridge whch is far weaker than full rifle caliber
Im not asking to nerf pistol rate of fire

this is purely about pulling the trigger, not about aiming. cartridge doesnt have anything to do with it.

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still better than artifically nerfing semi ato rifles by making them shoot popcorn when you shoot at 420RPM for balance sake

  1. i think that nobody is shooting even close to max rpm in 99.9% of the game
  2. even if they were rapid firing SA rifles, recoil makes it that it is impossible to aim at anything except extremely close range in front of rifle.
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This overwork will however add more balancing features

For example…
SVT-38 is BR 3
SVT-40 is BR 4

Yet i see no advantage in performance on SVT-40, all i get is pain facing tier V german stuff
If SVT-38 was 100-120RPM and SVT-40 was 140-180RPM with better (lower) bullet dispersion and bit better recoil then there would be distinct performance boost making it higher BR worthy and the two guns would feel different

No this is bad idea and not work. I remember they nerf all Battle rifle have rate of fire only 200 rpm

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i dont remember this being ever the case and if it was, should of stayed that way

Before stalingrad campaign update i remember

clearly you’ve either never been around guns or never even watched videos of people shooting. You can mag dump a semi-auto pretty much as fast as we do in-game, it’s just that in both situations its pretty shit if you wanna stay on target when shooting anything rifle caliber (that’s why battle rifles haven’t really been a thing since the 50-60s) - it’s even worse in-game cause then there’s the hilarious amount of shot dispersion you get when rapid-firing a semi-autos.

How long have you’ve been playing the game? DF did this exact same thing way back and it was probably one of the shittiest patches ever because it made every semi-auto into a steaming pile of dogshit to use at even the mid ranges in which they would have otherwise had an advantage.

Honestly I wouldn’t mind a lot of bolt actions getting their ROF increased cause some are just far too slow even for being bolt actions, but otherwise your proposal is just terrible.

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did you just click 7 times in a second?

In that case give semi autos same dmg as bolt actions

There was a time where semi auto rof was changed to 200
quite literally everyone disliked that change, so it was improved to the values we have now

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in that case remove that dumb dispersion and make it recoil based only

Oh yes let’s make most semis to be even crappier as they are now. How about we always use just SMGs and Bolt Rifles no matter what?

Not that I am a gun expert, but I have shot a few semi auto’s in my life, including the M16, which was three shot burst. However contrary to what a gun manufacturer rates it’s ROF, a human being can only pull a trigger so fast, some faster then others, and fast fingers does not mean accurate fingers. The faster I shoot, the less accurate I become, so, there is a limit to how fast I can shoot and be lethal, same with everyone. So, just because DF rates a semi auto at 480 ROF, most are not going to shoot at that rate. Semi auto ROF is not an issue to me, it’s the over buffing of some smg’s, and under buffing of other smg’s that are my issue, especially when I think the vast majority of players are using smg’s over semi auto’s. Really the only place I play majority semi auto’s is in level five, and I use them on fully auto, so it does not matter how fast my fingers can click the mouse. :smile: