I want the quad Maxim milk truck.
Ensures delivery of the finest soviet milk. (Still need milk delivery features for current milk trucks.)
OMG THIS, I HATE THIS SO MUCH, I keep forgetting it and building a HMG or MMG or the first floor of a building, only to not be able to shoot down which is mental.
Glad you agree on most things ! The ZB-60 would replace the MG 131 in my suggestion, just to be clear. I’ll edit my message because I put the name in strong text, so it might be confusing because only my other suggestions titles are in strong text too.
For the inverted Type 93, I was sure I saw more pics of it, but couldn’t find them when writing this.
I mean, DShK should be in the exact same spot as Type 93? Its mount doesn’t change when it switches its configurations, wheels and shield just get removed.
There is a version with the aa gun in the mod editor
I know. Enlisted IMFDB, mounted weapons section, 3.7 cm Flak. That is the model from WT.
Good remark, but as you can see, several parts have been removed from the carriage, and the gun has been greatly elevated to allow much more elevation of the gun. As you can see, the carriage is used as it is against infantry: you can see that there is a small metal seat at the rear of the carriage, you can even see it on the ingame model. In an anti-infantry role, you don’t bother to deploy the tripod in AA position, it takes a lot of time, and you have a way higher profile, which makes you vulnerable. Instead, you just orientate the carriage in the direction where the enemy is, you put your ass on the metal seat, and you shoot in a sitting position.
The DShK is more of a HMG that could be used as a AA MG, while the Type 93 is more of a AA MG that could be used as a HMG. As you saw on the pic in my post, it looks like the tripod could be lowered and the gun mounted in an inverted position for better ergonomics as a HMG.
Plus, the fact that when you are standing in an AA configuration gives you a lot of elevation, but the depression is very low, because you are not supposed to shoot anything else than targets in the sky. Just look at the WT crew model when you try to shoot low, there is nearly 0 depression to the gun, and if there was more depression, the guy would have to be standing on tiptoe to shoot low, lol.
No, in an anti-infantry role, you want more depression than elevation, because you put the MG on a position where you can see targets from far away, so in an elevated spot, so you want to be able to shoot positions beneath you.
Hope this helped !
I have added a few sentences (ideas/remarks) to the Sd. Kfz. 7, MG 131, and Type 93 sections. I also added one more pic to the Type 93 section.
i had a sudden realization, could the wheels in the back of the original Type 94 model (the ones that were also clipping with the benches) be the ones meant to be go on Type 98 that they never removed before replacing the truck model entirely?
Oh, they did that ? Yeah, the two wooden wheels behind th cab of the SPAAG model in WT are the wheels of the Type 98 gun if the crew wanted to disembark the gun. I never noticed that these wheels were still present before in enlisted, in fact, I had not noticed at all that they changed the truck model, lol. When was this done, just to be curious ?
when they introduced the APCs to the game, they still reused WT models, I remember making fun of it
I don’t remember when exactly the new higher quality models were added, but it was done in some of the major updates afterwards, they did fix the wheels eventually, but it explains why they were there in the first place
EDIT: found when, like half a year after apcs were introduced: Update "Rzhev"
Oh my.
The devs really don’t want to beat the laziness allegations.
I have edited my first post by removing this pic, which is very likely the original french Hotchkiss MG (the stock and the grip seem a bit different), and not the Type 93, so the japanese probably never used this tripod mount:
Sorry for the mistake.
Also, I have added a few more pics of the Type 93 on the tripod, but there is something that bothers me, and it is the fact that everywhere that I search, I can’t find any pic of the gun in this disposition, which is the one that interests us the most for its high depression angle :
I have decided not erase this pic in my first post because it seems like a legit WW2 pic of this gun, which proves that it could be mounted like that, but I can’t find any other pics of the gun mounted that way, only other pics where it is mounted that way:
Does anyone have any other pics of the Type 93 mounted just like in the black and white photo (with the high depression angle), or does anyone have any explanation why it is mounted in such a way ?
It’s all good, but…
It’s a bit too much, isn’t it?
I don’t really think so. After all, all the HMGs ingame can already destroy light tanks, even the MG 131 in 13.2 mm on the fictional mount, and all HMGs also only need one hit for a kill, so this gun could be like the japanese Type 93 with its slow rate of fire. Given the fact that people think the MG 131 is OP, and the fact that all HMGs are a one hit kill, I deduce that the problem of the MG 131 is its very high rate of fire. Plus add the fact that the mount ingame is completely fictional, I think it would be reasonable to replace it with the ZB-60, because it would give the german HMG nest a reasonable “nerf”, while also being more realistic by replacing it with a “real” MG.
We are literally talking about automatic PTRS. This can break through the armor of 40-45mm.
I don’t think that the penetration is that much different from other HMGs, but even if it is higher than on other HMGs, it would only be useful on low tier vehicles or vehicles that do not have sloped armour. Once the armour is sloped, the HMGs are useless against these tanks and they generally get obliterated pretty quickly because of how visible and fragile these guns are.
This is higher. About 10mm. This is not so little. This is already enough for the destruction of some medium tanks.
It might have more penetration but once the armor is sloped, even 40-45mm of penetration is not enough. From the side, yes, it will wreck enemy medium tanks, but other HMGs also have enough penetration, even if it is not as high in other HMGs. And generally, you can’t really build HMGs on the flanks of the enemy without being noticed, and if that’s the case, then the team you’re playing with must be pretty bad, lol. And in the end, it’s not like gaijin had given its historical penetration to the PIAT, I guess they can do it again for balance, lol.