Replace the MKb 42 in Moscow with a G41 W with scope

You’re right, you don’t always have to, but in a multi-lingual auto-translated forum it only helps your argument. Also, just because someone presents their opinion without argument to back it up, or makes a bad argument, doesn’t mean you should. If everyone did that, the forums would never be more than people screaming their opinions from the rooftops and no actual discussion would occur.

Actually, in game it doesn’t even have 1000 rpm including fully upgraded.
[insert sad hans here]

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It’s still extremely effective. Even with the MG 13 I can easily clear a trench infested with PPD’s

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Doesn’t mean that mg-13 > PPD. “I can kill half a dozen with a knife” A strange argument.

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Balance. Just because the PPD or PPSh is really good at close combat, doesn’t mean it’s the only weapon that is, or that other weapons can’t be used in the same situation to great success.

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I didn’t say the MG 13 is better than a PPD. I’m saying they fill the same PURPOSE of automatic fire. The MG 34 is better than the DP. And the PPD is better than the German SMG’s at CLOSE range. At longer ranges the Kraut ones smack

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I don’t understand why you’re proving something to me. In my opinion, everything is fine now, and people are not asking en masse to remove PPSh from Moscow. It’s strange to me to see backward suggestions when mkb is not a bigger problem than guns in the USSR.
Again, I prefer to play for the USSR in Moscow.

I have nothing to prove, but as long as there’s something to discuss, I probably have something to say. If you think everything is fine as it is, what’s the point of squabbling over the PPSh vs (insert weapon here) in a thread about the MKb?

Yeah, me too.

This thread isn’t about how big a problem the soviet guns are. It’s about replacing the MKb with the G41 Sniper, which isn’t the worst idea I’ve ever seen, but I disagree with it. It would improve the Axis sniper’s abilities at moderate ranges, but it would take away from a potentially big piece of the Axis’ close range firepower, (and here’s where the PPD and PPSh come it) which would be a problem because the Soviets are already potent in CQC.

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You can’t discuss guns in a vacuum. Balance is made up of a million things:
Guns, tanks, airplanes, maps, tickets, even the side from which the sun shines.
I can just answer “let the mkb stay because it balances the PPSh”.
I rather do not understand why the Sniper 2 Axis again kar98, and not gewehr41, as should be done, because the USSR already has a sniper SVT

is Exactly the opposite, the German bolt-action sniper-rifles are much more efficient for sniping than the svt38 and the avs36 and the mkb, not having semi-automatics with the scope was more an advantage for German snipers, an advantage lost because everyone they use mkb now

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We aren’t, and I’m not trying to. You didn’t start by stating the balance between the PPSh and MKb, you just brought up the PPSh and M38 entirely out of context with the post.

You could have, but you didn’t, but if you had, I’d agree.

Soviets get Sniper versions of the SVT-38, SVT 40, and AVS, which are all less accurate than a bolt action and are less damaging in exchange for capacity and fire rate. The AVS isn’t equal to the MKb at close range, but it is better at moderate ones.
Germans get the Sniper K98k, then the Pre-war Sniper K98k with a higher fire rate and no other difference I can see so it’s an upgrade, then the G98 Sniper which hits harder as it should with it’s longer barrel and fires slower so it’s a sidegrade, then the MKb which is passable at moderate ranges with careful marksmanship and pretty damn good in CQC. It brings close-range firepower to another squad, making it a lot easier for german teams to defend close-in points or clear buildings than would otherwise be true. Seems balanced to me.

Long-range sniping isn’t really all that big a contributor to battles in moscow, IMHO. It sucks that most people are using the close range tactics especially if the team would be better served with the sniper tactics, but that’s why I run my Soviet snipers with 91/30 and SVT or AVS secondary, best of both worlds.

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Okay, buddy, don’t be so hard on yourself. You communicate culturally, I respect that very much, but I get tired of too long conversations.
I quite meant it, implying that if the M38 is much worse than the PPSh, there must be something to make up for it.

But then we still have some tank models and onf vehicles around which would fit.
On the other hand who is that insane to grind for a level 40+ biker squad in Moscow or replace the T-50 with Zis-30?

I maintain that implications don’t always translate in a multi-lingual forum, but I get what you’re saying, and I do agree that the MKb being where it is helps make up the difference between Soviet and Axis CQC firepower.

Replace a too-well armored, fast, effective tank with a slow, ridiculously well gunned tractor you can kill with an SMG? Don’t get me wrong, it would be neat to have the Zis-30 in game, would require careful play or it would just get slammed, but I don’t support replacing the T50.

Yeah. I dont wanna get sniped all the time. T-20 itself would be nice though. Liked it back in the old HnG days.

We’re off topic, but I agree. Would be neat to see future addition of small-ish, MG armed APCs.

Yeah I can’t disagree here.
They’d sooner add padding and fluff to even pre-level 30 things just to pad it out and then tack on the end game shit in 30+.
P-38J and Lanchester and the 109G-10 in Normandy being good examples.

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Buildable 88s and I think the PzIII with the long 50

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