This is an extremely strange argument. In that case, the MG also shoots too fast.
which mg?
Like @Rickyd123 said 1200 rof mean he has a lot of difficulty to aim at distance and end ammo more fast, so mp35 full star is very advantage than a ppsh41 normal or full star
2 Likes
MG-42. Of course it is not in Moscow, but it seems that no one ever said it was bad, because the server does not register hits from it because of the rate of fire.
because how often do you fire the mg? in short bursts or mag dumping
The PPSh recoil is 14 with no improvement. It’s practically a laser. Upgrade and perk - you shoot without recoil. Short presses and that’s it. I’ve used PPD and it’s great.
You have more ammo in the magazine than the MP, more rate of fire, Less recoil. Sorry, there’s no downside.
To complain that the server doesn’t work somehow is literally made up.
1 Like
What prevents you from not firing 71 rounds at a time with a PPSh?
1 Like
That’s all true. It’s also worth noting that the added capability of Axis snipers in moscow in CQC comes at the expense of medium range effectiveness since the Axis doesn’t get a scoped battle rifle comparable to the SVT-40 sniper, but I’d agree that Moscow is the campaign that’s closest to Balanced. Berlin is balanced too, as things currently are, but if it gets a swarm of Axis vets the FG42 spam is gonna more than make up the disadvantage in firepower.
But only at extended ranges. That high rate of fire means that, up close, and combined with the large magazine, the PPSh is a bullet hose. Just spray down a hallway or into any group of targets that aren’t too far apart or too far away. Axis SMGs require more careful gameplay up close and have an advantage farther away because of their more controllable low fire rate.
yourself, hence why i asked how often do you shoot the mg, as in how long do you shoot the gun
look that I used it (normal / full star), the rate of fire is the problem the recoil can be as low as you want but in continuous fire at high speed the weapon moves from the area where you want to shoot, which is a problem at a distance problem that, even when upgraded, mp35 does not have, for this reason I say that it can counter the ppsh41 well, it is a good weapon (once upgraded
2 Likes
It fires a cartridge not terribly more powerful than the C96, and they’re interchangeable, and the PPSh weighs three pounds more than the M1 carbine. The recoil is realistic as modelled.
Smart gameplay. Although, when it’s been needed or made sense, I’ll admit I’ve dumped that whole drum to good effect.
This isn’t really a weapons issue, it’s a lag and hitreg issue. I’ve got fast net and low latency most of the time, but when the servers are overloaded I’ve shot a guy in the face with the shotgun and watched his head rock, saw the blood, and then he killed me and kept moving. Taxed servers+high RoF weapon=increased likelihood of bad hitreg.
1 Like
It’s good, but at close to medium range the PPSh is better simply because of the huge drum, which will forgive you a lot of misses and allow you to kill twice as many enemies at a time. At medium range the recoil of the Mp-35 will still be palpable because it’s higher. If you shoot in bursts of 5-8 rounds, no one will have any problems.
In general, it is ridiculous to deny that the main trump card of the USSR is worse than the usual SMG Axis.
i know that i am just saying mp35 can do it, (once upgraded)
1 Like
Why do you keep talking about historical references. I have never once said that it should not be so. I said it’s strong and there’s no point in proving that the recoil is actually big
man this is good
5 Likes
i’m just saying that once upgraded mp35 it can do it against the ppsh41, it’s not a bullshit competition which gun shoots best, i’m just telling you that mp35 can do it, got it
You do realize that the PPSh gets all the same bonuses as the Mp-35 when it is improved, right? If one weapon is better than the other at 3 stars, it’s better at full.
I’m not saying the Mp-35 is bad, but it’s still worse than the PPSh
you’re right, you never explicitly stated that it should be changed or shouldn’t be what it is, you just used that fire rate and low recoil as justification to indicate that the PPSh 41 is superior to the MP38 in every circumstance, which is demonstrably not true, and I made the historical and physics references I did to demonstrate why it’s as it should be.
This thread has already covered all the reasons the PPSh and PPD are better weapons in CQC than their german counterparts, and also why they’re not as good at extended ranges. If you’d like, we can have an entire discussion about the physics of recoil and the differences in that action between a weapon firing a faster, smaller bullet and one firing a heavier, slower one?
*only at up close
UNDERSTAND I’m saying that once upgraded mp35 can do it,the comparisons, I don’t give a damn, I’m just saying you with THE GERMANS for now enhanced mp35 is the best way to fight the Russians in Moscow, stop, nothing else. understood