The normal sherman is hard enough to kill as it is but the jumbo is on a whole different level. It’s undeniably broken and needs to be fixed. They should remove it and replace it with either the m10, 76mm m4, OR if people insist on having a “heavy tank” another 75mm m4 but with add on track armor or sandbags could work.
I mean this would be pretty cool. It’s a bit more armor but doesn’t make it invincible
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The normal Sherman is not as good as either pz 4 the Germans get.
The Jumbo can be penned from the front and the ap shells that pz4 get are better then the Jumbos shells. So Jumbo has better def, the pz4 has better pen.
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You say this and I just got 2 shot hit from spawn in my Sherman by a Pz.IV J on Airfield.
The Sherman isn’t hard to kill, you’re just aiming at the wrong place.
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The Sherman is definitely better than Panzer IV J, as a owner to both, I would say Panzer IV J is the worst tank in the entire Normandy Campaign. Its insanely bad vs infantry, moves insanely slow and can be one shooted from the side by HE shell, turret speed is one of the slowest in game. Panzer IV J is only good vs light-medium tank, can’t do anything against the Jumbo.
I wouldnt say the Sherman is hard to kill, its okay. I’ve been killed countless times, because of its low armor values. Most ppl who plays German stopped using Panzer IV J in favor of Panzer III N. its the better tank than IV J
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The undeniably broken Jumbo can be twoshotted by a panzer 4 lol, the puma can twoshot him from the back and even the sturmpistole can kill crewmembers, stop shooting at the frontal armor.
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The jumbo is much too strong. Its weak spots are too small to hit reliably and it can easily penetrate the panzer iv frontally. Not to mention that despite having all that armor and firepower, it still remains very mobile. It’s not a vehicle that can be balanced so it should be removed.
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Im reaching the point that I just see people that complain about the Jumbo like its a god of war as beginners at the game or people that think they are pro but have no skills at all. If you can not kill it does not mean its broken, it means you need to learn more skill.
and you can kill the panzer IV just as easily. They are equals. The jumbo is not.
And when I say the Sherman is hard to kill, I’m talking about for “new” players who aren’t max level. Not everyone has top level you know…
Bullcrap if you see those as equals then the Jumbo and pz4 are equals as well. Pz4 has more armor and less weakspots and way better ap shells that do more dmg
Arguably the best antitank weapon in the game is given for free at the start to every player. stop reaching, german players really want every single advantage on their side.
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Wow, such a great idea. Especially when one sits in grey zone on airfield. How could not we thought about that before?
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That’s literally because “new players” use the kfz which has 30mm armour on the front and 8mm on the sides and sports a 50mm KwK cannon and they focus too much on fighting Shermans and the M5a1 head-on where the 64mm Front armour of the sherman sits.
You can still deal massive damage and 2-3 shot a sherman with the Kfz if you aim at teh side, back or bottom of the Sherman where the 38mm and 20mm armour sits.
38 - 50 = -12 = penetrating shot
64 - 50 = 14 = nothing
New players need to learn how to use AP rounds and need to realise that Green means good and Red means bad.
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No, i want BALANCE on EVERYONES side. The jumbo is essentially immune from the front. “shoot the weak spots” people say. Well good luck hitting those past point blank range on possibly a moving target. “just flank it/use grenades” people say. Good luck with that when it sits on the map edge/out of bounds lobbing shells at everything that moves.
The panzer IV is the ONLY vehicle germany has that has any sort of chance at destroying it and even then they aren’t not good odds.
I ask for it to be replaced because adding another broken top rank vehicle like jagdpanzer iv l/70 or something does nothing to fix the issue
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yeah because that never happens on the dday map…oh wait, it does, there is always a pz iv butchering people on the beach from the grey area, that’s how the game works, but i guess it becomes an issue only when you are on the wrong side, right?
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The thing is, It can and is killed by other tanks that spawn on the beach. The jumbo is not. When a single vehicle is the deciding factor in whether you win or lose a match, you know something is wrong.
take airfield for example. I have NEVER won a match on airfield when there has been a jumbo. NEVER.
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did u just ignored all posts? u can pen a jumbo from the front, a strumpistole can get the turret and the crew, a puma twoshots from the back, if you are unable to do it get better, it’s simple as that. You want boring symmetrical balance, the game is not like that at all, germany gets way better smg at the start, way better mg overall and the broken fg 42 that u can equip to a whole squad, the us get a better bolt action, the piat and the jumbo.
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You do not want balance, if you wanted balance you would not ask for the Jumbo to be removed. Its one of the only things that gives the US a fighting chance atm. Germans have superiority on all game deciding fronts.
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Tanks on Normandy need a rework. On Allies side, Jumbo is too good, while tier 2 tank is a complete joke. On Axis side, tier 3 is a joke that nobody plays, while Pz III is arguably too strong for tier 2 and Puma is way too fast.
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IF the Sherman Jumbo is easy to kill in game, than its a historical inaccuracy.
IF the Sherman Jumbo is impenetrable in the game, than its horrible balance.
either way, replacing it with a Sherman 76mm would be the better option without a doubt.
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Dude the FG needs to be removed as a regular rifle as well, the rest is somewhat ok balance wise.
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