Replace Madsen

As far as I know, tha Madsen LMG wasn’t used by the russians during WW2, so I suggest replacing it with an captured Polish wz.1928 LMG. It is an Polish copy of the American BAR, and some were captured by the Soviets during the Russo-German invasion of Poland in 1939. In my opinion it would be much more historical to have it in game, in the place of the Madsen.

Edit: I have been provided with info on some Madsens being used during the Battle of Moscow, I am now in support of keeping it but having the wz.1928 or the Madsen as a premium or similar gun and the other as the starter LMG. The Madsens description in-game should be modified to inform about its use in Moscow.

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Why not just replace it with the DP that is actually modeled???

That’s not replacing, that’s removing

whatever - get rid of it and use something reasonable!

DP would be the best weapon ingame, probably, unless modelled that you cant ADS when not using the bipod.

Would kinda require a MG34 as counterpart.

Guess these could work decently as the bipod LMGs, while that BAR and the ZB36 would be the walking fire MGs, with the MG13 somewhere in between

Wasnt MG-34 an MMG and DP an LMG. I think MG-13 is more suited to be a counter to DP.
Soviet MMGs were DTM and Maxim-Tokarev

MG13 has 25rd mag.
MG34 would have 50rd drum - 3 rounds more than DP, but longer reload

MG34 was General Purpose MG, could be used as LMG or MMG (vehicle / lafette mounted)

DP is actually a rather poor MG, with a low rate of fire - it would get a bit more firepower ovetthe Madsen from having a larger magazine and 100rpm more - but that only takes it to 50 rounds and 550/minute.

ZB-26 should have 500 rpm and you can give it a 30 round mag…so it will be a bit better than that… but hey… Pz2 and MP-41… why can’t the Sov’s have something marginally better than the fascists? :stuck_out_tongue:

so just rename it to what it actually is and be done with the silliness!!

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The poll showed that the majority don’t consider Pz II OP and requiring a nerf. And MP-41 affects only the premium players and most testers don’t care about what happens about them. It’s the people who own the packs that’s been complaining about MP-41s.
The LMG on the other hand is available for everyone. Any imbalance will lead to this game dying faster than it is now.

Also, DP was part of the game in alpha and was too good. Which could explain why it got replaced by Madsen.

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The problem with replacing it with the BAR is balance. The Madsen is balanced well, while the BAR has much worse ammo capacity and much better weight. It would be a wildly different weapon.

DP is not a poor MG, it was a good and reliable LMG during the war. DP was a good gun compared to what americans and british used BUT germans were the kings of building MGs. MG42 is still produced today by the name of MG3. The only problem was that all german MGs were very heavy and stuff like BAR and DP were much better when held in hands and soldiers could use them while standing. All german MGs (even LMGs like MG13) had to be mounted on a bipod or soldier had to lie down to use it

The Poll? You mean reddit?
Most players on Forums have absolutely different opinions compared to guys on reddit. The thing is that Enlisted community on reddit is messed up, 90% of them didn’t even buy the game.
guys who did buy the game and are active on reddit are mostly those guys who upload posts with names like this: ,JAWOHL! Im enjoying the game, my god…its WUNDERBAAAAR!,

Wehrabooism on cringe level.

Even some german mains agreed that Panzer 2 is bugged

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He means this poll. It was mostly “no” at first, only now it is somewhat evening out.

That’s so cool…I didn’t know we can make polls on forums.

Honestly
They are buggy as fuck and an absolute pain in the ass to set up.
They got reset like 10 times, wiping all votes, by now.

thats BS. Of course, Soviet side isn’t going to vote in big way on English forums. So these votes are kinda meaningless. Actually, shows how OP German side is - it gets so many votes for nerfs, even on English side servers.

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Same poll was posted on Russian forums. Funny thing is that they seem to be even more germanized than English forums. More than 50 votes and 46% voted that PzII needs no change (42% in summary for nerf). Here we have 41% for no change and 56% in summary for nerfing PzII

Maybe actually read the thread of the poll.

The thread creep is strong in this one young padwan!

Jeez - how did we get from Madsen to P2 poll demographics?? (Yes I know I helped along the way… :dizzy_face:)

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