Still more than one person who says puma is worse and starts acting like a one man army and calling others noobs
I don’t know why (nation)mains have to negate when their weapon clearly has a bug or overpreforms
Play all nations, learn their advantages and disadvantages
Some problems you can’t see by playing only one faction
And we both know that you saying that you play both nations equally… is a lie
I don’t think you’ve ever landed a det pack under a Puma just for it to lose 1 crew member.
Or make the transmission yellow
i do.
but as i said. it’s the TNT being bugged on the newer vehicle.
happened the same with the t.28.
right on the roof, it just slight damage the tracks, and the engine.
got an m8 from the side, it killed the ammo for some reason.
putted another tnt in the engine of an M5. got engine and tracks just to orange…
believe it or not, i have played this game enough to tell you what’s bs. and what’s not.
as PZ III N my self survived from tnt under my tank.
something is wrong with them, not any stalhkruppen pumas.
so quite your shite, and came to your senses.
TNT was never bugged until Puma was introduced
I have doubts believing that
you are free to believe in your own ignorance… but this won’t change the facts.
and if i have to make my computer full of proofs, so be it.
That’s offensive
Chill out
?? I’ve just started the Normandy campaign - currently lvl 3 - last game killed 3 Puma’s - 2 x 1 shot from front with 37mm, 1 instant death from expl pack… 
Let’s compare
Mobility: +1 for puma
Armour: +1 for stuart
Survivability: + 1 for puma
Firepower: +1 for puma
Results: 3:1 for puma
Puma sux, devs please buff
Sadly, that is not true… Ba-11 was real manifestation of broken models. Puma merely shares it.
While I agree with that cannister shot, I do not agree that puma overperforms because of its characteristics. We saw it with Ba-11 and we are seeing it now too.
Or it is just me knowing how to actually aim to kill with M5
So the biggest problem is devs don’t know how to properly make armoured cars?
I believe so tbh. I see Ba-11 as a proof and puma as confirmation, and I also do believe, that if we get another armoured car it would cause exactly same issues.
For those who did not participated in alpha test or don´t remember Ba-11, it was another armoured car that caused a literal havoc, as stock tank outclassing everything except PzII that managed to somewhat stand a chance, which however required long and painful grind to get.
So the best case scenario is if devs don’t know how to make damage models for armoured cars, then we shouldn’t even have armoured cars
Puma can be replaced by Pz-2L tank that had similar armour as M5 and APDS ammo for 20mm
Armoured cars already rule in Warthunder and I don’t think devs who make Enlisted are going to correct WT’s mistakes
Well, yes. Also puma is not fit to do a frontline tank job. It works on Le Bre Invasion, it works on most domination modes where mobility is a thing, but if its issues get fixed, it will actually begin struggle in D day landing style of maps (yes it is hard to believe now, but also now nobody would imagine that PzII was a hero in this story back then) because its not suited for this job.
I am sorry but how the M5A1 is better than the puma? I’ll just show you some of the stats
Puma- better HE, better APHE, faster, higher survivability.
M5A1- more armor (which doesn’t matter against tank with over 100mm pen aka PUMA), more MGs? (You can’t even use the top one without getting out of the tank with the commander) and faster reload time (by less than a second of course)
Keep your Complaints to tanks that actually have problem in the game like the Pz 3 B and not tanks that out do the enemy in most of the cases or you gonna become the boy who cried wolf
Overperform compared to a HE shell that can actually oneshot a group of soldiers that is packed close toghetter? The 50mm HE performs quite well actually
It really is 170 grams is 3 hand grenades and 20 more grams of explosive, it’s great HE shell
Just an observation about replacing HE with cannister - Cannister is line-of-sight only - even with hte lousy HE filler I kill germans in buildings by aiming at internal walls and the shrapnel/blast gets them - not in big groups, but pretty much every game.
Canister will not do that - any solid cover will protect from it.
With the stuart’s mobility that should not be too much of an issue. The HE wouldn’t be able to kill those guys either anyways