Replace M5A1 Stuart HE shell with Canister shot

Currently, the M5A1 underperforms compared to the Puma. The puma has higher survivability due to having a lot of empty space that sucks shells into the void, and a better gun, with much better HE. I suggest adding the “Canister shot” ammo type in replacement of the Stuart’s lackluster HE shell. This shot acts basically as an oversized shotgun, for the people that do not know what it does. It has a pretty good lethal range, and would allow the Stuart to be equal to the Puma in terms of anti-infantry firepower.

This was suggested by ManyMilesAway on the CC discord
Thoughts?

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It may not happen often, but I completely agree with you here. M2 Canister shot should be added to its available rounds

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I mean I’d like it to be buffed a bit, it still missing the stabilizer (and it and the sherman should get it) so I see no reason to not add this ammunition…

Yeah it need this buff for sure in the M5A1 HE there’s less HE filler than a a hand grenade (37 near 50 grams)

I said I wanted it be added from the first place…

Oh I misread. Mb.

I don’t see a single reason why not. HE is usually just on the multiple degrees of terrible anyway

I definitely like it

But the biggest reason why puma overpreforms is a very bad and broken damage model making it somehow immune to explosive packs, bazookas and AT cannons (even when shooting exactly at crew)

Before adding the canister shot, we have to remind devs to fix the Puma

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under perform?
man, the m5 can even go through my frontal armor of my PZ III N.

as i said, i ain’t a war thunder ace, tanker or whatever.
but the m5, unlike the puma, can get a lot of punches.
if angled, it’s a disguised tiger tank for the americans.

how can you say that underpeform?

i played the m5, and does not underperform at all.
overhall, for the main thread, all HE shells should be reworked in my opinion.

but giving more anti infantry power to that tank that is already better than the puma due to their mg mag.

that’s a big no from me.

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Debatable

Long 50mm doesn’t care about angled light tanks

He can
Actually a lot of people said it
But the issue is not M5 underperforming, it’s puma being broken and bugged

Lol are you on drugs :rofl::joy::rofl:

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it’s preatty much not.

i’ll tell you that.

exept it does.
and this factor can be noticed more when your 50 mm does not gun breach his little pencil cannon.
or when that square tin can seems immune to 50mm shells. like, you get the components, but the crew it’s still there. sponge-shelling everything.

trying to get the gunner? well too bad. the turrett it’s a giant block unpenetrable for a 50 mm. when on his end, the puma turrett can be almost penetrated anywhere.

it is truee that enlisted and war thunder are different games.
but something really went wrong when you are putting 5 shells into the m5 in different places and that one still goes on with no trouble.

h o w ?

i don’t think you even tried for 1 sec the puma.

i don’t think we are playing the same game at this point

I have a magic word for you my dear Sir: sidegrade

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*screams in sidegrades *

i know it wasn’t for me…

but still.

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Thank me later

Actually, in the last 3 days I was playing Germany more than USA so I definitely know what puma is

I bet you never faced puma by yourself

exept. the same bloody thing happens for the m5.

is the m5 the issue?

no. it’s the explosive tnt thingy being bugged.
always have been,

because i recall throwing tnt to vehicles, under them, and what happen? slight tracks and engine damage.

are you… are you new?
i don’t think it should sounds strange for you.

not for being mean or antyhing. but they are the definition of hit or miss. i bet they miss alot.

i don’t think i will.

zee irony

I could see the canister shot being a very limited ammo sidegrade for the M5A1, once they implement upgrade trees. Have it replace the HE shell, and only have a few shots available.

The canister shot is useful for clusters of soldiers, and as nearly everyone has between 3 - 6 window lickers running in tow, you’d see why it would become rather problematic. The sheer lethality that it provides will be very hard to balance if you give it a sizeable amount of ammo.

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Dude… This is a fight you can’t win

You can call me whatever the names you want
But
The reason that majority agrees puma overpreforms totally reveals you either don’t even play the m5 stuart or you play it very rarely

Puma can and will survive direct crew shots

I haven’t seen a majority saying that the Puma overperforms, honestly. Where are you getting that infor from?

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it’s barely a fight?

i just don’t understand how can you defend a puma when it’s engageing an m5.

i do understand that the puma has it’s own problems but you are overlooking the m5 as a whole.

hate to break it to you, but 6 people aren’t enough and does not furfill nor be mentioned as " everyone "

I have enough info from likes and comments on update feedback

Who except Erika said that m5 is better?