T-34 (1940) for 2 BR
Reason: The Germans have an armored “Pz.III N” with a 75 mm gun for 2 BR
M 10 GMC for 3 BR
Reason: Weak armor, open cabin and slow mobility
KV-1 (ZiS-5) for 3 BR
Reason: can’t withstand Tigers and Panthers
KV-2 (1939) at 3 BR
Reason: Long reload, no machine gun and can’t open hatch
SU-85m at 4 BR
Reason: can be penetrated in the front by Tigers and Panthers
The M18 GMC is not on the list due to its high speed and good gun
The howitzer in the Pz III N is in no way comparable to a dual purpose 76mm
T-34 has angled armor that is hard for anything below a high velocity 76mm to pen. Even dual purpose 75’s can have problems penning the cheeks
Fair enough…maybe
LOL. No
Don’t use it then? It’s a 152mm howitzer dude. It doesn’t belong in Low Tier battles
…maybe
High speed is useless and frankly a nonfactor in Enlisted due to lack of room to use said speed, and has more or less the same gun as the M10 GMC and the 76 Sherman’s. A high velocity 76. Exact models vary with the M18 and Sherman’s having an M1A1 or M1A2 and the M10 having an M7, but regardless the performances in game are the same. It even has less armor than the M10. It is borderline useless in Enlisted
However, that’s no skin off my back as I don’t use the thing. Prefer my 105. Regardless, your reasoning doesn’t make sense compared to your reasoning for the M10 GMC
Yeah I agree also only for the M 10 GMC it should be BR III.
On the M18 GMC, you can quickly flank and destroy Tanks and then quickly retreat
i agree but only for the kv1 zis and m10 gmc
the t34 kv2 and su85 are appropriately placed.
If you think so, then obviously you didn’t play much on them, the confrontation with tanks of your rank on them is a real test (except for the t34, he feels fine on his combat rating)
M10 at BR3. Yes.
The rest is nonsense and biased.
Fair
Reasons are weird but otherwise yes
And why? Speed is redundant in Enlisted and the gun sucks.
SU85M is worse T-34-85 with even worse BR rating since it has no turret and machine gun and its low profile arguably causes more issues in most city maps than actually helping. Not even the cannon is better, just renamed cannon of the 85mm.
There is no reason why this tin can is BRV while both T-34-85s are BRIV.
Oh yeah? On what map?
on all maps
I can destroy 7+ Tanks on an M18 GMC and never die.
Bull. What’s your pathing to do so on first D-Day objectives or any in Hurtgen Forest?
The tactics on the M18 are simple, flank and do not shoot at the infantry when you destroy the Tank, retreat and wait about 2 minutes for the Avenger to stay away from you
Flank WHERE?
Bias? Well, let’s take a few examples. KV-2 has a 152 mm howitzer, which sounds impressive, but in reality, it’s a huge reload time and HE shells are worse than those of the japanese Shortgun at BR 3. He has a massive turret that gets penetrated by almost everything, no machine gun, no ability to peek out from the turret, and low mobility. If he had really good HE shells, then maybe BR 4 would be justified, but right now, it’s just a useless tank that isn’t needed in the game. It’s probably there as a joke. He can kill KT(H), Shortgun can kill Pershing, but that doesn’t mean it should be sent to BR 4.
SU-85 is tank destroyer without machine gun, also with low mobility and not much armor. Against the main tanks of its BR, specifically Tigers, it’s completely useless. The german TD at BR 5 has a machine gun and better frontal armor, and the japanese ones aren’t even worth mentioning—Ho-Ri is still hard to penetrate head-on.
I’m having a hard time deciding if you’re being serious.
T-34 (1940) for 2 BR
Reason: The Germans have an armored “Pz.III N” with a 75 mm gun for 2 BR
BR 2 is overkill, bad idea its perfectly balanced
M 10 GMC for 3 BR
Reason: Weak armor, open cabin and slow mobility
didn’t play these so I can’t give my take but I’m pretty sure they have an improved anti armor shell ?
KV-1 (ZiS-5) for 3 BR
Reason: can’t withstand Tigers and Panthers
I agree with this. worst mercy tank too
KV-2 (1939) at 3 BR
Reason: Long reload, no machine gun and can’t open hatch
berlin maps and Stalingrad are really bad for it so it has no use. it def belongs in BR 3 like the dicker max
SU-85m at 4 BR
Reason: can be penetrated in the front by Tigers and Panthers
the SU-100 is a premium and also at 5 br, with a bigger gun. this one I fully agree on its so useless
Jesus this entire topic just dove on this guy:sob:
I’m fine with every suggestion except for the KV-1 being BR 3.
Under that logic, the Jumbos should be BR 3, too.
