Re-Doing Japanese Rifle Line

Game discussion Japan
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As it stands… Japanese rifle line is badly implemented.
Their Tier 1 Bolt Action rifles are better than the stuff they get later and other rifles are just plainly overtiered, yes you Type Otsu at Tier 4. Then there is horribly missed opportunities such as Type Hei Late as the main tree researchable weapon.

What I think shuld be the Tier and stats. If i dont mention certain stats, i intend to not keep them the same.

Im going to use the stock figures

Tier 1
Type 38 Carbine
Rate of Fire: 54 → 55
Damage: 20.5 → 19.5
Reload Time: 3.0 → 2.5 sec

Type 38 Rifle
Rate of Fire: 63 → 55
Damage: 21.0 → 20.5
Reload Time: 3.5 → 3.0 sec

Type 1 Rifle
Rate of Fire: 48 → 60
Damage: 23.1 → 20.5
Reload Time: 3.0 → 3.5 sec

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Tier 2
Type 44 Carbine ---------------- [Premium]
Damage: 19.5
Rate of Fire: 60RPM
Reload Time: 2.4 sec
Vertical Recoil: 45
Horizontal Recoil: 30

Type 99 Rifle (Late)
Rate of Fire: 42 —> 50
Damage: 23.4 → 23.5
Reload Time: 3.2 → 3.5 sec

Type 99 Rifle (Early)
Rate of Fire: 48 —> 55
Damage: 22.6 —> 23.5
Reload Time: 3.1 —> 3.0 sec

Type 38 Rifle with Launcher
Rate of Fire: 63 → 55
Damage: 21.0 → 20.5
Reload Time: 3.5 —> 3.0 sec

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Tier 3
Type 99 Rifle with Launcher
Rate of Fire: 48 → 55
Damage: 22.6 → 23.5
Reload Time: 3.1 —> 3.0 sec

Type Otsu Rifle ------------------------- [Premium]
Reload Time: 2.3 sec → 2.6 sec
Damage: 11.2 → 12.0

Type Hei / early (5 Mag)
Reload Time: 3.2 → 3.0 sec
Damage: 11.6 → 12.0

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Tier 4
Type Ko Rifle --------------------------- [Premium]
Rate of Fire: 260 —> 320RPM
Reload Time: 5.4 sec → 5.0 sec
Damage: 11.2 → 12.0

Type Hei / Late (10 Mag) [Main Tree]
Reload Time: 2.9 sec → 3.0 sec
Rate of Fire: 320 → 260
Damage: 13.9 → 12.0

Type 4 Rifle
Damage: 12.4 → 13.0
Reload Time: 5.2 sec —> 4.0 sec

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Tier 5
Hino Komuro Rifle
Damage: 12.0
Rate of Fire: 300RPM
Reload Time: 3.5 sec
Magazine Size: 15 Rounds
Vertical Recoil: 38
Horizontal Recoil: 22

Shisei Rifle
Damage: 12.0
Rate of Fire: 750RPM
Magazine Size: 20 Rounds
Reload Time: 3.0 sec
Vertical Recoil: 50
Horizontal Recoil: 12

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My Sister thread of this one for Japanese Tanks:

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It is basically an automatic type hei rifle.
So there is no reason for it to have such low damage.

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55rpm for Type 38? Man you just butcher the only usable weapons the Japs has and makes them 100% rely on SMG

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Any precedents on these rof, damage, and reload changes?

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It’s to be more In line with M2 carbine

Otherwise you’ll have a 12.0 damage auto rifle with 750RPM

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Well I made it so that it’s no longer the best bolt action and now you’ll have to use Type 99’s

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Lol we literally have FG42 that has the same damage and RPM in game.

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In that case fine
What’s the recoil on FG42?

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For FG42 62 Vertical, 22 Horizontal.
For FG42 II 52 Vertical, 10Horizontal.
(Stock)
(Both have same dmg and rpm)

Keep in mind that recoil in the gun’s stat card in game maybe wrong, you can refer to this document which show the true recoil of gun.

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Ok I adjusted the proposed Shisei stats to 12 dmg and increased recoil

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Fk off man, Still 55rpm dogshite

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Type 38 Rifle (Now)
63 RPM (Stock)
72 RPM (Spaded, +15%)
81RPM (Crew Skill, +12%)

Type 38 (After change)
55RPM (Stock)
63RPM (Spaded, +15%)
71RPM (Crew Skil, +12%)

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Sir I won’t spent BR3+ budget on a fricking boltie(Type 99early/late, Dogshite Carcano sniper, dogshite G98) when i can get a Pre-War Kar 98, Manlicher and Winchester M1895 for better performance and damage at BR1/2 prices in low BR match

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what about the type hei 10 as “early”… but only fed with stripper clips (as there’s a clear stripper clip guide)…

or the type ko (early) also fed by stripper clips with a lower rof?

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Dont use old topic make new one