My personal list:
S Rank - Engineer (obviously)
A Rank - Attacker Pilot - Tanker - Gunner - Fighter
B Rank - Mortarman - Flamethrower - Assault - Bomber
C Rank - Nazi Trooper - Radio Dude
D Rank - U.S Trooper
Seriously Gaijin either move the FG to only assault or buff the M2 because it is absolute dog doo-doo.
Tell me if you agree or disagree with this list
My Moscow would look more like this
S - Soviet Assaulter, Axis Gunner, Engineer
A - Attacker, Tanker, Assaulter/Gunner for other faction, Radio op
B- Bomber, Flametrooper, Mortar (attacking in invasion)
C- Troopers, Mortar (defending in invasion)
D- Fighter, Mortar (conquest)
edit:
F(orgot they exist)- Snipers
S rank - Engineer
A Rank - Pilot, Tanker, Gunner
B Rank - Mortar, Assaulter, Flamethrower
C Rank - Radio Operator, Normandy Bombers
D Rank - Trooper, Sniper
F Rank - Moscow Bombers (anti tank rifles)
Oh oops forgot sniper he would go in C
My Moscow:
S - Gunner, Tanker
A - Engineer, Assault, Sniper, Radio (in radio squad only)
B - Atk. Pilot, Mortar, Trooper
C - Bomber, Fighter Pilot
D - Flametrooper, Radio (outside of radio squads)
In Normandy the differences would be:
S - Atk. Pilot
A - Tanker, Fighter Pilot
C - Flametrooper
Actually Flamethrower is pretty OP but needs skill, it is mainly used to deny people going places and then swapping to fast firing gun like BAR or FG and wiping the disorganised squad out. I haven’t touched the Moscow Campaign so I don’t know much about what is good or bad there
I’ve only rarely found situations where flame is useful, even on Normandy. I find it much better to use assault class or grenades to wipe out the enemy, rather than set fires to stop enemies from coming in (which molotovs do just as well). Smart enemies can also just tank the fire and mow you down. So in the end the flamethrower is just a heavy weight the flametroops carry around for me. I don’t have T2 flame on Normandy yet though.
T2 is like 10x better it is a game changer
Aye flamer 2 is really good. Flamer 1 is crap.
Normandy US:
S - Attacker pilot, Tanker.
A - Gunner, Engineer.
B - Assault, Mortar, Flamer.
C - Sniper, Radio.
D - Bomber, Fighter pilot, Trooper.
Germany Normandy -
Prety much all premium Squads are S tier. Mp18 might be bad on open maps but on Collective farm its a blast for example
i would consider non premium assault and troper squad as A tier on the high campaign level. when you manage to have multiple 5 star soldiers with the best weapons avaiable.
Germany moscow campaing
mg30. S tier all the way. the only weapon/squad worth investing in imo.
Berlin -
S tier mp40/I and panther.
the remaining are either B or A tier.
Flametroper and radio squad are F rank to me. couldnt care less about them.
on every campain i ill choose:
S - premium MG/smg/engineer/tank and plane
A/B - maxed out troper and assault class. (with engineers/bombers or mg guys)
remaining squads i find them useless and prety much F tier. why bother with a radio squad if i can have a arty everytime i spawn with my normal troopers
why bother with flametrowers
why bother with bomber squads
or even MG squads when the premium ones are simply just better (polish bar and mg30 in this/my case)
Speaking on a couple of the types that it seems that people dislike;
For me, radio operators are useful as you don’t need to switch to them in a squad to use them, and otherwise they’re as effective as a trooper for other purposes. So you just tap 7 when you spawn a new squad and lay down a barrage somewhere. It’s more useful, imo, than having a second bomber in a squad. I certainly wouldn’t have multiple, and I don’t use radio squads, but they’re a nice addition in general, I think, to a lot of squads.
As for Flame troopers, flames are an area denial weapon and can reach into areas you wouldn’t otherwise reach, like up stairwells, so they beat out assaulters for clearing multi-story buildings. They’re also useful to prevent you being flanked as you push into a building, even with flamer 1’s. Sure, assaulters are better at straight up killing, but flame troopers have utility that assaulters lack.
Troopers only get access to rifle grenades as a unique item, which I don’t really see being as much of a benefit, on the whole, compared to the area denial of an artillery strike.
Dont forget to take into account the max perk points units get at max lvl. For instance troopers can get 3 of the max perk making them better for some people.
while true, you’re trading a marginal improvement of a single unit’s perimeters in exchange for, again, utility.
Being able to do additional actions is a worthwhile tradeoff in most instances in my opinion, compared to improved stats.
The squad, yes, individual units, no, which I thought was the topic of this thread. In there you clearly chose to have an engineer, gunner, and radio operator over a full squad of 9 troopers, obviously. Which brings more to the table than additional troopers.
my point, is that i dont need a radio squad, a engineer squad or a mg squad, when, a troper squad can easly fufill all the above.
ranking said squad over a full upgraded troper isnt right. imo. coz we can have the same benefits as the above ones without sarifcing a full squad over it.
ofc you cant have mg nests aa guns and such. but for such a fast paced game i m yet to find them worth my time building one.
even if a flametroper as u state is more efective at cleaning a house, a troper with full auto FG 42, can deal with everything at every ranges… at some degree even more efective than assault class (imo ofc) because of long range capabilities.
Unless you’re on the allied side, wherein the M2 is considerably worse than the FG42 at range. Moscow is also a different picture, where troopers do not have access to a gun as OP as the FG42 you get in Normandy.
In addition, an engineer squad can set up an MG nest, AT gun, and AA gun, all of which have additional purposes. There’s also the fact that more engineers = more build points you can utilize, if you’re going nuts at fortifying a cap point. Doesn’t often come into use, but sometimes does.
Also, again, I thought we were ranking individual soldier types, not squads, in this thread.
yeah that’s what I thought too but whatever let it evolve. I just lost a match on D-Day where I had to carry so hard I pulled everyone through dying at the beaches by building rally on the right then we take the 1st point at 500 troops then we struggle up because some people don’t know what engineers are, we take the stupid bunker at the top of the hill at 200, then I forget to destroy some rally point I left behind, so i have to go all the way back and destroy it, then I place the rally point too close to enemy spawn by an accident and we dwindle our soldiers at the last point. Very rage. And of course some idiot with a stupid plane gets like 100 kills and doesn’t help us at all.
How do u get 10 soldiers in that squad? max is 9 and u got 10?
