PvE mode - [Hold the Line] - Possible introduction of Finland đź–¸ and the Winter War

I feel like they would have to add the abilty for the ai to use tanks and planes

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ability… Oops

ostfront, fun especially with friends

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AI can do it, it’s just that they never spawn them in

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Really? Is it only in customs, ive never seen them in sqauds

i’ve seen it 1 time and it was when a sherman player left and an AI took over then started going to town with the vehicle

Thats cool was the ai good? Or dogwater

AI can actually shoot guns and stuff in vehicles, at least I think so? We have AI that can man MGs and HMGs on their own now for example, so we aren’t too far from maybe having them attempt a basic drive and attack against players, since it is a core part of the game mode to be able to scrap enemy vehicles for points to use.

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was surprisingly effective with the co-ax until i believe an AT solider got him since it doesn’t really drive around

I’ll keep adding more stuff to this as it comes, I still have some other ideas that could fit here, and I’ve been getting feedback from some good buddies outside, for now I’ll work on perhaps a last wave boss idea.

from my other post suggested by @GasMasters Wake island(japan vs USA) and hurtgen forest(Germany defense), invasion of greece(greece defense vs Italian and german) could be good ones.

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Yeah, I would like to see battles that don’t get mutch game coverage, such as Greece, yugoslavia, eithiopia,khalin ghol, the Philippines,the hurtgen forest,France(the invasion of), partisan action all over Europe,the battle of Danzig,and other rarely seen battles

Continuation war would offer more weaponry.

cool.

now try to make it with enlisted editor. ( i’m… joking )

( ps… introduction of finland is kinda brave of you to assume that will be a thing due to … kinda lack there of equipment to begin with )

also, i’m not… against it.

because i have been somewhat long proponent of pves,

but tower defense is the most lazy type of pves that you can ask for.

we could, and should have something like insurgency sandstorm pves and / or armored warfare type of gamemodes.

where you get to attack greater number of AI forces too.
not just sitting ducks and wait for their arrival.

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About Finland’s equipment, as stated, their lack of original equipment is a thing of course, however they do have frankenstein designs such as the BT-42, the main reason I suggest them, is because the devs would not have to do a lot of work to introduce them, their gear in general is mostly captured Soviet, or pre-war bought stuff or leased Axis weapons.

As for the Tower Defense design, the devs need to begin somewhere, of course I’d like something with a more interactive and capable AI, but I have no idea how far or capable the current Enlisted AI is, that it would be capable of reacting to player interactions that well.

If you want something different, go check PvE mode - [Survival] - Possible introduction of Polish Home Army â™” and the Warsaw uprising by Dan, as his idea is more proactive based.

I would definitely like to see this.

Pros -

This would be good for new players to learn and experiment with different weapons.

For veterans a better form of testing and strategy + a way to chill out.

Cons -

My only fear is that the AI is not smart enough to be much of a challenge for your average player. I’ve mowed down over 100 AI on a single soldier before using LMG emplacements.

Tanks wise I don’t think I’ve ever been killed by a bot while in a tank so I’m not sure if this is possible.

Planes… bots dont fly so maybe ban them in this mode?

Solution -

They need to improve the AI and this would be a good way for them to test that and make iterative changes.

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absolutely genius idea. significantly better than normal enlisted game modes too.
one of the best things even is, that you can adjust the BR of the AI/weaker factions flexibly, and give germans e.g. 1 tiger, multiple panthers and rest stugs/panzer4/3 to create balanced and HA situations.

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This looks like a really nice and well thought-out idea, though I have no idea how likely something like this is to be added to the game. If it adds more queues (in this case, a PvE queue) then it’s already extremely unlikely, sadly, as the whole point of the merge was to reduce queues. Many players would indeed prefer to just play this mode only, as well, reducing the playerbase further. It also sounds like it would be extremely different from the main multiplayer game, which can have negatives as well as benefits when players move between each mode. It sounds much slower-paced, and therefore players may get scared going towards the much faster-paced gameplay of the main game.

All in all, it’s a nice “practice mode” type idea, but do I think it’s the direction the devs plan to go? I’m unsure

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In war thunder they managed to create such a mode. The planes and tanks work and are quite a nice challenge when attacking. Infantry is already able to attack, so I don’t see a problem. It’s probably just a matter of time

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That’s actually good news, means the game mode would be possible down the road!

Frankly speaking, old Enlisted had a lot more bot matches than current Enlisted, I do not see bots often if at all, especially in peak hours, the devs could add more queues without issue, plus! If it is such a problem, you could instead remove BR from the gamemode and make it an exclusive one queue mode with set equipment. Playing this mode solo would not be easy or rewarding, in fact it shouldn’t be possible to play it solo, it is a team mode after all (if your team quits, you’re boned, unless hotjoining is allowed), hence, it is a party oriented game mode, and if there is still concerns about it, limit the amount of times it can be played either by special tickets or times per 24 hours.

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