Put down the Sd. Kfz. 251/9 II

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This thing don’t belong br 3, it’s not even that “good” you are just a fresh meat ready to serve, so as this dude said: Sd. Kfz. 251/9 II to Tank - #26 by Conscript_Joe I suggest put it in br 2 with the universal carrier where it could do a better job

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I guess br3 is enough，it likes an infantry support vehicle instead of a tank.

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I have this vehicle, I don’t use it at all yet I agree. The way I see it, this vehicle is in a weird position in which it doesn’t feel like an APC, or at least it breaks the flimsy rules of what an APC in this game should be. At least the Universal Carrier had the purpose of carrying troops in real life, despite how comical and clowncar-like it looks to spam a 9 men squad out of it. But I like it.

So yeah, it should be lowered to BR II or switch it into a ‘tank’. But the latter would cause too much outrage for those who do use it as an APC.

If we had a support vehicle class this stubby guy would fit right in there. But alas we don’t have that.

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Assuming we’re talking about the same vehicle (the German APC equiped with the 75mm gun), this may be a controversial opinion but I don’t think it’s underpowered at all. It basically gives German teams the unique ability to exceed the 2 tank limit at BR 3 and above. The fact that it’s not as strong as a “proper” tank at the same BR doesn’t really matter because of that.

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It either needs to be buffed or dropped. It has small crew, no armour, open top, bad pen, small ammo capacity, weak mg and poor maneuverability.

If they wish to keep it in br 3 it will need bigger crew and apcbc shells replaced with heat

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Same as other APC on br2.
So why should this APC be special?

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I think APCs with only one machine gun should be in BR2, APCs with nothing should be moved to BR1. And this APC has a short 75mm cannon along with a machine gun, so BR3 is enough. People complain that you can’t kill a tank with it, but I think this comparison is wrong, if you want to kill a tank, use a tank, no APC can destroy tanks (except for some extremely weak BR1 tanks and this APC againt some br2 tanks), but this APC is much better against infantry than other APC.
Although I believe that a fifth or even sixth person should be added to it.

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FYI, you’re not supposed to be fighting with an APC anyway: APCs are mobile spawn points; they should be hidden well somewhere close to an objective, and should also avoid fighting while making its way to that point—otherwise, you give up its position to the enemy (who will definitely try to blow it up). The onboard weapons are there for defensive purposes only, and should only be used if absolutely necessary.

Therefore, it doesn’t matter where this APC is slotted—BR II, BR III, etc.—It should be used in the same manner at any BR.

While we’re on the subject… I’ve seen many people blowing the horns on APCs as they drive toward the objective. All they’re doing is announcing the APCs position to the entire enemy team. It really makes no sense.

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yet it’s fun use the milktruck of allieds or the japs or soviets because the fast move, however german one is ew

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They could have just added a separate class of vehicle to the game and added these “APC’s” with combat abilities to that category instead and gave them other unique abilities instead of being mobile rallies like unarmed APC’s. (Mechanized Infantry Support Vehicle or something with a shorter title)

But it is what it is now, and I highly doubt it will ever be reversed.

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I would prefer to see the 5th crew member added to the vehicle instead since it was operated by 5 soldiers in reality.

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well its HE turns it into a third free tank slot - even if having very poor AP for BR3, however I also have to say that I dont use it often, because its crew is too small to work properly as an APC.

Bren Carrier also has a small crew, but the main catch with that one is that it is very very easy to hide - even inside of buildings because of how small it is.

I am totally against lowering that German half track into BR2, because its then not much different to Panzer IV F1 in terms of performance. But a buff / change to the crew could make it more desirable.

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I don’t know why everyone hates this thing being br3?, Im using it at BR3 since the br changes and it works good, Im using it against infantry if I want to, but Im usually using it as “APC”, and it works great which way I want to use. and if somehow I get br2 match against usa, then this thing becomes “very good” destroys low armor tanks, and its HE shells able to destroy single squad. having gun- and not being able to pen br 3 tanks shouldn’t be a excuse to lower its tier, but if it somehow gets change and lowered to br2 then fine but it doesn’t need to.

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I disagree. It has slower reload which means it cant spam he as easily, it has barely usable mg due to the overheat, it turns really slow and has no turret so it isnt as flexible, it has no armour which means it can even be killed by br 1 players with at rifles and it is open top which means it cant play as aggressively as pz 4.

I agree with this. Im fine with it staying br 3 as long as it gets buffed. Right now it has too many drawbacks to be worth using

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Maybe I missed it if it was suggested here…

But why not just go the other way. removed the Armor piercing round and just leave it with more HE and smoke…

Then the reason for it needing to be BR 3 no longer applies, and it doesnt have to be buffed (more crew might be nice though)

That and its super quick on most terrain. The other APCs are a dog to drive

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Again, I think you guys are looking at it the wrong way. You guys keep comparing it to other tanks to show how it’s weak even though it’s not a tank, it’s an APC. I know I said it before but I think it’s worth mentioning again for emphasis, the vehicle basically gives German teams the exclusive right to exceed the 2 tank limit. Infantry die to 75mm HE shells all the same whether they’re BR1 or BR5.

If we do compare it to tanks however then think about it, if this thing goes down to BR2 it basically means that Germany gets a M8 Scott that can can spawn infantry and doesn’t take up one of the two tank slots. How is that even remotely fair?