Progression

After 1 week of playing all my friends uninstalled this game… why? cause it gets BORING AF with single campaign and faction, and if you switch them - you have to start from 0. That’s not cool…

Please devs, think about it. It will be better for your game. Now when I’m playing (and I don’t know how long will I play) I’m always doing one and only campaign with same faction from first OBT day and I’m not even 12 lvl yet.

I highly suggest you to make CAMPAIGN and SQUAD UPGRADES shared with all campaign and factions!

SHARED:
Campaign levels
Squads, their upgrades and points.

Not shared:
Soldiers, their levels
Equipment and upgrades.

You can make sub options for PLAY button in main menu like:
Play - random campaign with random faction and get 10%-20% bonus XP and credits. (It’s not even important, you can even disable it at all, but I think cause of this bonus many people will pick it and matchmaking will be quicker)
Play - manually select campaign and faction

With such changes game will be much enjoyable and MORE people will play it, trust me and think about it devs. Now you are literally splitting your game into chapters and whole community with it…

Please guys PLEASE! make this game enjoyable and not boring. If game will have this progression like we have now, I have to quit. Not going to play single campaign and faction all time. Hope you will understand.

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Jumping into a fresh campaign with top gear sounds boring to me. Most the fun is the way up the campaign ladders

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Well you must understand that this is a free to play game and devs can’t just give you all of the progress in an instant.

There will be grind and there is nothing you can do about it.

If you want to have everything unlocked then Post Scriptum or Hell Let Loose is the way to go.

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Norse, why is it problem to join “fresh” campaign with unlocked squads? you will still need to get soldiers and equipment…

WygerBlitz, just because it’s F2P does not mean that I have to live here, I have to earn that progression not devs, I’m asking for better progression system, not fully unlocked account.

Plus if they will consider such change in progression, ofc they will have to increase XP and add more levels in main campaign if it will be shared across all game.

Just I can not understand why you want to grind every single campaign from 0?

Thanks about your suggestion, I will better PAY for much better game and enjoy playing it rather than WORK in F2P game and run with literally scopeless sticks for every single campaign.

Oh, PS, you say that jumping into fresh campaign is boring right? What if I say that it will be FRESH for you! and there will be people who already grinded whole that campaign and they have fully unlocked top gear machineguns or other better equipment, you will have to face them with stupid troopers with sticks. Good luck… I’m not going to switch campaign, will stick to main one and after it will get boring I will uninstall, and it’s are getting boring already.

That sounds like much more of a challenge and therefore more fun. I don’t want to have all the best stuff and want to spend time getting higher in the ranks. This isnt call of duty

you guys are pissing me off… IT WILL TAKE AGES to grind all 4 campaigns from 0 to max… are you kidding me? How the hell are you ok with such trash progression system? I mean… Are you WW2 veterans or shit? Is this ONLY game that you’re playing atm? Do you want to LIVE here 24/7? What the HELL? I’m done.

There is nothing wrong with it. By the end you either pay with money or pay with time, either way nothing is for free.

If you are looking for more fast action the go for the HLL, if you are more interested in long games with not that much action but considerable higher focus on teamwork and coordination on big maps then go for PS

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Why would you want to max out right away and skip everything? The challenge is half the fun. You must love everything given to you right away. The current system makes sticking with a faction a benefit BUT the bronze and silver orders do help when you start a new faction

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Well, I do get him somewhat. I am currently level 11 and it has been… Alright? so far…
I mean the grind up to this point hasn’t been that bad but I can’t even imagine myself level 20.
And the more you progress the less often you will be rewarded for doing so.

I mean you are not wrong, but this game is developed under supervision and published by GAIJIN ENTERTAINMENT.
Do you seriously expect that company to give you literally anything for free without paying by your time for it? I´m a bit uncomfortable with grindiness in each campaign as well, but we all know that snail is not going to change that or make it easier. Besides, F2P games are always grindy, time is in every F2P title a price for not paying with money.

That’s why we have to stand together and suggest better option dude… If no one will say anything and people will be agree with such ugly and useless progression and pay money like sheep, they will keep like they are doing for years. And once more I will say that I’m not asking something for FREE, I’m asking for better option for progress, so it was FUN and we could have more variety.
They have to INCREASE main XP bar even bigger if they change and redesign like I’m suggesting and I’m OK with that. It will take same time, but will be normal. Now it’s not normal. I never seen such stupid progression system in games. So instead of saying that I’m wrong and attacking each other, think before what is better for you too, does it suits you or not.
I bet even people who are “OK” with such system will leave this game in few weeks of not earlier…

I know it’s F2P game and they have to earn… but they can still earn, changing progress will not change payment model. People will still need XP or battle pass. Plus they can add more stuff with cash, like camos and cool stickers for vehicles… things that will not affect gameplay.

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Current payment model is despite our best efforts and rants connected with progression so that argument is wrong and gaijin will sadly get away with that, they are too big to suffer damage because of Enlisted, only one beaten on this would be Darkflow.
Please check out old posts and topics regarding monetization, I´m sure you would find them useful.
Also I wasn´t attacking you, so please save up unnecessary harshness.

Honestly I would be more inclined to connecting campaign level to both nations in each campaign instead, but definitely not different joining campaigns together under one progression, that would be too radical for snail.

" maybe the real progression, were the soldiers that we made along in the road "

no one thinks about them

on a serious though, if you buy the premium account for 1 month, you will most likely unlock everything for at least 2 factions.

if you are and your friends are cheap guys that are not willing to support this game pretending that the title it will be sustain on it’s own, i guess it’s normal that you will have to grind.

after all, as the other day another dude showed:

Cheers.

Looking at the way things are going this game will die in a few months. The target audience for FPS want to play as their own soldier while unlocking customization for their character and guns. Forcing people to control a squad and micromanage equipment/guns is not something FPS players want to do especially putting in mobile game features like needing multiple copies of equipment to upgrade it. Even if they get past this part, I can’t imagine anyone tolerating this experience again if they want to change campaign and completely start over. I’m betting the majority of players will go back to other F2P FPS like Combat Arms which are more simple in their progression of play game, get exp/currency, and buy cool guns.

Not going to happen because a lot of people do not agree with you.

I am one of them.

Taking already researched squads into the other campaigns is a bad idea -

firstly the campaigns are completely different games, and it is best to treat them as such - WTF should progression in Moscow count for Tunisa ffs??!!

secondly the progression system is really quite intricate and subtle in its design - your simplistic idea cuts across many of the cross-dependencies that form the structure of the game

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I mean… Compared to war thunder, this game’s progression is pretty quick IMO. Actually, it’s pretty quick for really any free to play FPS. I just got to level 10 in axis, and decided to switch to allies to get that sherman jumbo, because I think it’ll be a better deal than the PZ IV, and I don’t mind this grind. I have some cards grinded out on axis already, which I’m now spending on the allies. That’s more cross tree interaction than you get in war thunder where you need to spend money just to use the free RP you’ve racked up. Now I can use my decent squads in the axis to get cards to unlock gear for my allies that are struggling.

War thunder however… Christ that game has slow progression, I’ve basically quit that game for that reason, after years and years of playing. They really don’t want new players to ever reach the end of a tree in that game, at least not without spending real cash. Like, I understand criticizing excessive grind in a free to play game, and sympathize with it… I just think this aint it chief, there’s far worse games, including other games under the Gaijin umbrella. Meanwhile, this is the first game I’ve felt it was a reasonable pace for a free to play game.

… Now that I think about it though, not to brag, but maybe I have a very biased view of this game’s progression because I’m weirdly good at it… Like… Weirdly weirdly good. Normally I suck at first person shooters. I’m decent in Halo and that’s about it. I was OK in Destiny, I suck in battlefield, I suck in COD, I suck in counterstrike, I suck in hell let loose, I suck in post scriptum… Like… I REALLY suck dude. For whatever reason though, I’m getting top 4 in this game nearly every game, I get first place regularly, sometimes by a wide margin. Like, I’m addicted to this game because it’s the first first person shooter I feel like a try hard god in. The result is I get through a campaign level about once every 4-6 games I think? It’s good progress IMO, it’s only been a few days and I’m already almost half way through one out of 4 campaigns? That’s not bad. If I just did 1 level a day, that’s probably about 2 hours of playing a day… For like 3-4 months to complete the entire game as it stands now? That’s quality content my friend, about 200 hours of gaming to unlock everything currently in the game from the campaigns? That’s awesome for a free to play game.

But… I do occasionally have bad games, often times when I’m trying to get a really dumb task knocked out. Then I see progress after a game drop to like a quarter to half as much, and that I could see starting to become frustratingly slow progress. That being said, I just like unlocking stuff. Unlike war thunder where I finally got to Sabers only to be roflstomped by F-100s, mig-19s, etc, this game doesn’t feel like end game items are really needed immediately to play well. For example, I was underwhelmed by the PZ-IIIN’s HE shells so much I’m seriously considering going back to my Puma, and after I managed to kill a sherman Jumbo from the front with a PZ III N, I’m convinced that the end game stuff isn’t particularly overpowered enough to make fast tracking campaigns even that big a deal or important. Now I feel like I can go play other games for a while and come back to enlisted, and not feel some FOMO for not grinding out the campaigns asap. Like, they give you engineers with AT guns, det packs, attacker planes, tanks etc early on, and you can easily deal with late game enemies with those if you’re good. Even the stock guns aren’t bad, I’m liking my Kar98 snipers and MP-34s, they’re solid guns.

And you know what man, that’s how I like it. Part of the enjoyment in this game IS the progression system, and I think allies and axis should have distinct progression. So too different eras and military campaigns, which is why they broke things up the way they did… So personally, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with how they broke it up. I’m just glad I can spend requisition cards on any army, earned from any army. Now I can rack up cards on my best army, and then spend them on my weaker ones.

Now, if there is anything to criticize, I think it would be the specific unlocks… I question the reasoning behind making the PZ-IV vs Sherman Jumbo the final tanks on Normandy. I question making the sten gun instead of the thompson the top allied SMG, considering the sten was british. Hell, while the M3A1 was produced in 1943, it didn’t really FULLY replace the thompson until 1945… Which means that in the Normandy campaign, you should probably get a thompson unlocked before the M3A1 towards the end. Also, I think the Piat and Sturmpistole are ridiculously weak, I think they should’ve added the bazooka and panzerfaust shoulda been the main infantry anti tank weapon. Or at least, be added as late game unlocks. And greater differentiation between allied units and weaponry would be nice, like, it would be nice if only british and canadian units could use the british weapons, and only american units use american weapons (except in cases where they plausibly could’ve used each other’s equipment, like lend lease).

Furthermore, if I were to pick ONE thing I think is excessive, and rightly could be called “job-like”, it’s that silver req cards are, after completing all the one time achievements, are ONLY unlocked in the battlepass… This means if you are a free to play player, you at best can only get silver cards once daily. And, there’s imo only one logical option to spend those on: Vehicle parts. Vehicle parts dont drop in the brown cards, while all the weapons do drop randomly in the brown cards… I could see this being a long term issue, where whales can get serious upgraded tank advantages over free to play players. I think a small amount of the tasks should be silver card rewards. Namely, the harder ones, like get first on the team 3 times. That’s hard enough I think a good player deserves a silver card reward. And finally, my biggest issue with the battlepass is that to get even just ONE gold card, you NEED to complete every single battle pass item… If you are a free to play player… Well… You can only get one battle pass item per day, and there are 60 items… And the current battlepass when I started ends in like 64 days… Which means I get like, 4 days where I dont HAVE to play this game for at least like, an hour, if I want to get even 1 gold card… And I’m in the middle of moving and getting out of the military… WTF… I feel like they need a much bigger margin than that if they want to keep free to play players even remotely interested in playing daily for that gold card, and give the whales more targets, because the biggest turnoff to me right now is the idea of having to play daily for that stupid gold card grind. Or even just the silver card grind, like I said, battlepass is basically the only renewable source of silver cards.

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I’m the same, I generally suck at FPS, but this is the only one I’ve ever played where playing smart can overcome slower reflexes.

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