Maybe you don’t have to upgrade them in the academy, otherwise, it would be absurdly difficult to have a veteran one.
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I fully agree on bringing premium squads on par with free ones in terms of numbers, levels and composition.
I do NOT agree at all on restricting purchase until corresponding campaign level has been reached. People do pay premium specifically in order to NOT having to wait to unlock stuff, FFS!
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Wonderful thread, written with love. Excellent summary.
+1 from my side.
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But why they should be at least equal with the tech tree ones?
bro seriously? why wouldn’t a $30+ squad be equally good in the long term? do you normally pay money to get a worse item than what is available gratis?
if people are financially supporting the game they shouldn’t get something worse than what is normally available.
Well in games it is quite clear why something which is available for money should be a bit worse than the free stuff. Except if we are talking for P2W
Not really. Premium stuff should be on the same play level so the person That is supporting the game gets the same play level as a non payer.
P2w is getting absurd advantages on the field. Right now it’s the opposite.
I m against pay 2 win, and since I’m on a position in my life that alow me to spend hundreds at free will in games, if said itens would existed, I would probably own them, and would most certainly be complaining about them for a change.
My scores reflect my skill in-game, with or without premium. With or without premium squads. I don’t need any advantage. I need what it’s fair for both payers and free users. And right now there is a huge unbalance against pay users
We get xp bonus, sure
We get more squads. Sure
But we don’t get the same options in-game when we deploy a squad.
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Let’s agree that we disagree on that. Also with how the game works rn people who want to spend money they can get full upgraded normal squads with 5 star soldier with top-star guns buy just spending money.
Also the game has 2 clear P2W features when it comes to premium time since with this one can get a second vehicle slot and when it comes to buying more squad slots since he can bring in battle as many vehicle as he wants. Those 2 with the current state of tanks and planes in game gives a huge advantages to players who want to pay over the F2P ones.
So as we said yesterday having the premium squads a bit worse than a full upgraded normal squad (meaning that the premium soldier are at best 4 starts lvl while the prem squad having same upgrades as the normal one) is more than fair
This isnt very accurate since for us who have premium, 2 vehicle slots are available and so we can have better score than a F2P player who has the same lvl of skill with us
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thank you 
thats true also if we consider that a f2p player can have the weapon or variant latr.
thx i hope this goes somewhere. or the devs read this thread atleast once…
A bit worse ≠ outclassed.
I own Normandy BAR bundles. They’re a valid alternative to regular squads only up to level 18, while their weapons are the best available yet. From level 19, when player unlocks same or better weapons, their main utility is nullified.
Again, i never said that the current premium squads are fine
Also it goes without saying that if the prem squads become like the normal ones, there should be implemented a max amount of the same type of squads one can bring in a lineup. For example if the tech tree has 2 MG squads, one could only bring in his lineup only 2 MG squads regardless of them being premium or not. Otherwise we are on P2W waters again
Again, we must consider the fact that there are already level 3 troops, as an example of level 3 snipers.
It will be a matter of time till level 3 assaulters and level 3 machingunners apear into the game.
If a free 2 play player wants to bring 3 machine gun squads at said time, and if he is allowed to. So a premium user shall too.
This is what i said. If in a campaign there are only 2 SMG squads all people should be able to bring only 2 regardless of prem or normal. Ofc if a tier 3 SMG squad is added this number should be jumped to 3 SMG squads regardless of prem or not
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part 4:
unability to change primary weapons or have a secondary weapon even tho the second slot is avaiable:
premium squads right now, on countrary to non premium ones, cant equip any other weapon than current have. even if a secondary slot is avaiable, no weapon can be placed there. even if they belong to the same gun group of either - troopers, assaulters - gunners etc.
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As an example:
part 5: pros/cons
Premium squads on countrary to non premium squads cant:
cons:
- cant Change soldiers
- cant Equip any other type of primary weapon
-cant have diferent soldier types - have more soldiers besides the 4 they come (assaulters, engineers, gunners)
- change the squad composition to have either more soldiers or diferent types (for example on current 9 man premium trooper squads)
- XP boosts, as a benefit, when the campaing are compleated are worth the same as a gherkin on the fields of france (DONT forget, that a player is alowed to buy said premium squads , after reached max level)
- Level besides the 4 star squad, where more and more players get non premium soldiers at level 5
- have the best perks avaiable on non premium
- i presume, they wont be able to level to “Veteran” because they are stuck at level 4.
-expensive for what they are. - limited ability to adapt on the batlefield. (no bombers, no engineers, no mg’s on the same assault squad for ex.)
- Overall inferior to non payed squad…
Benefits:
-100xp on early campaign levels.
- Counts only as an extra , inferior squad on the campaings.
- another type of squad avaiable to deploy.
- Unique weapons / uniforms.
- ?
Please add your feedback about it, any ideas or options would be considered.
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The have backpacks etc so it makes sense to not have secondary guns. Same goes with the regural squads they either have a sec gun or a backpack
no reason to have the slot open if we cant use it. ence, my post.
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well, that’s my point that i remember mentioning over the alpha.
premium squads shouldn’t be striclty better than normal squads, just sidegrades.
something to provide a different gampleay.
like, a normal squad, with just special weapons ( that cannot be taken away, otherwise the whole point of the squad would be abandoned ) and bonus and things still remains.
although, i would like to correct that the current premium squads are not " useless " as many people tends to points out.
i guess people are looking at those at the wrong side like i used to do for quite a while.
premium squads are mainly for people that have no little time. like, they hop on enlisted, make a few game, and than leave because they have others things to do.
like, you take a few squads that you like, and you roll with them. no upgrade is needed, and nothing else. plus, you get additional bonuses from those squads.
and i guess they make sense. that’s basically it.
alhtough for veterans, i do agree that those squads if they wish, should be upgradable.
but this is just my opinion. cheers.
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Premium squads should be equal to level 40 campaign fully upgraded squads. Simple as that.
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And before anyone complains about ‘pay2win’, at the moment free squads are significantly better than premium squads (which are limited to 4 stars, often have sub-par equipment, and have no engineers in the squad!).
So right now it is quite literally pay2LOSE.
Sure you can pay real money for a pz38t, but what’s the point when Slavs get a T-50 for free lmao?
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