Please buff Tunisia PZ.IV F2

The PV.IV F2 in Moscow has track armor added to it. Please add this one to Tunisia, or better yet just replace the F2 in Tunisia with the G, since G would make since as it’s 1942/1943.

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Panzer f2 never goed to moscow

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wait, gameplay and balance wise, what’s wrong with the F2 in Tunisia?

I’m still waiting for the Tiger because Tunisia was its orginal debut

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It has weaker armor compared to the one in Moscow. Also Tunisia PZ.IV F2 is actually historically accurate.

Read the update, it’s literally just been added

lol the 4f is fine

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Objectively speaking, the Panzer IV F2 in the game can be pierced by the 45mm gun of the T70 and the whole tank can be taken away with only one shell. I don’t think this is a normal situation (for game experience)

He meant historicaly, the F2 never took part in the Moscow offensive. came in later.

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Well I yea, but just because it isn’t historically doesn’t mean it should be better than the historical one.

Read the post correctly, F2 in Moscow is better than F2 in Tunisia.

dont recall t-50 being there either so dont really think the historical part would be a problem.

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but how is that a balance issue? objectively speaking the new Moscow T34 has a better gun and better armor than the Tunisia Sherman, so I can see the extra armor being justified.

Once again, history re-writing by the English speaking world: Tiger’s debut was near Leningrad in August 1942.

North Africa was way down the priority list.

There were about ~30 tanks sent to North Africa from 1942.
Out of ~1350 built.

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T-50 at least existed by that time. Pz IV F2 didn’t.

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T-34 has similar armor to the Sherman. The added track armor is only in 2 spots anyway.

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Then tell him, not me :stuck_out_tongue:
Just told Jared what Bigote meant cause he didn’t understand.

I don’t give a flying f*** about weapon balancing anymore (df likes to favour a certain side) and historical veracity even less, because we’re way past it at this point.

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well guess you are right, armor stats are kinda similar.

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Its actually funny that you say that, because I know the first Tigers were also sent to the Eastern front as well. I meant that it was the Western Allies first encounter with this new heavy tank

On 26 May 1941, mere weeks before Operation Barbarossa, during a conference with Hitler, it was decided to improve the Panzer IV’s main armament. Krupp was awarded the contract to integrate again the 50 mm (1.97 in) Pak 38 L/60 gun into the turret. The first prototype was to be delivered by 15 November 1941.[30] Within months, the shock of encountering the Soviet T-34 medium and KV-1 heavy tanks necessitated a new, much more powerful tank gun.[31] In November 1941, the decision to up-gun the Panzer IV to the 50-millimetre (1.97 in) gun was dropped, and instead Krupp was contracted in a joint development to modify Rheinmetall’s pending 75 mm (2.95 in) anti-tank gun design, later known as 7.5 cm Pak 40 L/46.

I definitely have absolutely no idea of anykind what you mean with favoring one side.
Far as I can tell ever since the massive LMG nerf a year ? ago, soviets in moscow especiatly have suffered massively due to PPSh having too high ROF and too big magazine causing certain players to waste bullets.
Also the T-50 / T-34 are massively suffering due to something lets say theyr color is wrong causing massive suffering for soviets.

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