Pistols/Nagant 1895,TT33,and Mauser c96

Then you probably can provide evidence of 7.62x25 transferring more energy to target than 9mm luger.

I did I took like 2 hours and wrote out a whole damn essay for you

Hmm, they indeed are improving AI of the game. Welcome to forum bot.

image these are the god damn statistics can you not read.You don’t provide any good evidence on how 9mm has better stopping power you just refer me to a forum that has someone say in the modern day there are better calibers of course newer 9mm calibers will do better but in ww2 it was more powerful than the Luger 9mm it’s pointless arguing with a idiot.And I would have responded sooner if it wasn’t for this 8 hour I can create or respond to anything bullshit.

and where in that shows the stats that 9mm Luger is better than 7.62x25

You really are bot arent you ?

You are actually Mentally retarded you don’t show any stats you just send me links than mean absolutely nothing to 9mm Luger to 7.62x25/TT33 don’t respond to me unless you have actually prove 9mm Luger fmj is better than 7.62x25/tt33

Its been now pointed out more than 3 times that muzzle energy / speed does not instantly mean = more damage.
Yet you keep bringing up the same muzzle energy / speed “stat” time after time.
And infact its your burden to provide the evidence of 7.62 tokarev doing more dmg than 9mm.
I just pointed out how flawed your argument is.
Sure if you can provide us ballistic tests of 7.62x25 doing more dmg than 9mm. Then sure buff it.

Nigga Did I only talk about muzzle energy did you not see the pound force energy shit you really are mentally impared

488J ( Muzzle energy ) Is exactly same as 360ft-lbf just announced in imperial unit…




Lbf is how hard it hits not the muzzle energy if it was they wouldn’t put it in

Lbf is the imperial version of ft of a bullet

What???

Funny that you mention it, wasn’t the FBI the ones that said that after multiple studies, they determine that .45 acp and 9x19mm are pretty identical in their damage performance, and us such the .45 acp is the worse round, since it has more recoil, and its size constraints mag capacity.

Also damage and penetration of a bullet depends on momentum, so the bullet energy affects the final result.

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I dont recall reading such study, I know they were comparing .38 / 9mm / .40 ( Which far as I know is what they currently use ) and .45
( Or they use 9mm quick google gave 2 options .40 and 9mm )

Also, I dont know is FBI limited to use FMJ rounds like the army is. If not, in that case the 9mm would be alot better option as theres massive variety of different bullets for 9mm.
And 9mm +P hollowpoints do indeed give similar if not even better performance than .45

Both good points and probably the reason why army as well has moved to 9mm regardless they are limited to use of FMJ.

Yes and no, it isnt exactly simple as speed + energy = damage. How much damage bullet causes falls under terminal ballistics.
As above posted the video comparing 9mm FMJ / .45 FMJ, The .45 causes more damage as it transfers more of its energy to the target than 9mm does, mostly as in video said due to increased diameter.
Also how the bullet behaves on impact has rather massive importance
( Good example would be 5.56x45 nato )

As of what comes to 7.62x25 it is overpenetrating round as well as its very stable so in most cases what it does is just going clean thru and transfers its energy to the target fairly poorly.
Its also rather hard to find any ballistic tests for it, perhaps since its been replaced by practically everybody who has used it.

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You two are actually mental retarded did I only bring up muzzle energy that was one of the fucking thousands of things I brought up also don’t say 9mm is as powerful as 45 acp I’m talking about 9mm in ww2 now a days there are different types of 9mm that are way more way power than in ww2 and you keep mentioning god damn muzzle energy that was on of the fucking million things I brought I’m done arguing with fucking idiots

It is muzzle energy what you are bringing. The energy bullet has when it exits the barrel, theres even barrel lenght mentioned in your stats from wikipedia.
Do a favor for your self and find Joule to ft-lbf converter and see the magic yourself.
488J = 360ft-lbf / 360ft=lbf = 488J
One could wonder why they give us muzzle energy as joules and your “impact energy” as imperial.
But I suppose you didnt bother to think about it.

It is pretty much only thing you have brough and fail to understand your own “arguments”

There’s a difference between the term “stopping power” and the energy provided to target in your statitics.
Stopping power is the actual amount of energy which is delivered to a soft target before the bullet penetrates and exits the target transporting an amount of energy elsewere.
7,62 x 25 will lose much less energy while traveling through a soft target like a human body in comparison to 9mm Para.
This means stopping power of 7,62x25mm is lower than 9x19mm’s.