Paratroopers exploit the game

I’m quite confused here. Paratroopers are surprisingly well balanced considering other mechanics that have been implemented with disappointing results. They give attacking teams more options and a better chance of winning which they desperately needed, especially on maps like D-Day. They are far from useless for defenders too.

I understand the way they have been implemented is not realistic, but neither is running around with 9-man FG42 squads with grenade pouches and WP. Enlisted is not a military simulator and never will be. HLL has cornered that market.

Being exclusively a premium bundle at launch was kinda dumb, but nowhere near pay to win, because they will be available for F2P players and from the current event and from progression later on. The Thompson 100 is excellent, but has significant drawbacks and can still can be countered by German assault rifles.

I think this is just a repeat of the AS-44 debate. The paratrooper squad is undercutting experienced players’ ability to stomp on new players.

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First of all, I never asked for paratroopers. I’ve been asking for lobbies in matchmaking, to remain open and continuous at all times, rather than booting players back to the homescreen. Which would eliminate the problem with matches that are only 30-70% human players, and the remainder are A.I. squads.

I asked for map voting during intermission, which would eliminate a large percentage of quitters.

I’ve been asking for balancing within matchmaking, to get fixed. (High skilled teams should NOT be playing against teams full of new players)

And for bi-pods and weapon mounting to get fixed.

And for fire and phosphorus to get fixed (because it travels through walls).

These are the types of things, that I’ve asked for.

Oh, and for soldier customization to get fixed.

And for the Fw-190 to get fixed (because it constantly pitches to the left).

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I’ll tell you one thing… Anybody that spends $60 will NOT want this squad to be NERFED. Because it obviously gives the player a competitive advantage, over those who do not have the squad.

So, I imagine a lot of people are going to protest my complaint. No surprise there.
I mean why not? I’m sure the 100 round Thompson and Axis equivelant are a lot of fun to play with…

This is incorrect, because the match that I created this post about, literally demonstrates that a premium unit was used to exploit the game. They deployed onto the roof of the objective (while being able to safely capture without anybody knowing where they were. Until the player started ducking-and-shooting the soldiers below, through the windows.)

Before the defense had any time to re-group and prepare for the attackers as they began pushing from the 4th objective, the enemy was already there to shoot any defender that entered the building.

If they achieved their victory, solely from this squad… Please tell me how that is not a pay-to-win?
Because without the paratrooper squad, my team would have bled them of their 100 tickets before they even had time to capture half the objective. If you look at the scoreboard, we had eight players who were actively using their engineer. And we were doing a great job at holding them back and bleeding them out.

But not for the fifth…

A single premium squad, ruined the whole fucking match by exploiting the roof and it’s capture zone.

Special Operations, right there.
Give that C-47 pilot a Medal of Honor, for flying directly into the middle of an active warzone (in broad daylight), and doing a precision drop with a squad of elite soldiers with 100 drum mags (and a crate of supplies), all within a small radius.

That’s sooooooo realistic and totally not pay-to-win. (Sarcasm) :roll_eyes:

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I don’t know if I can hang around that long. I’m on the fence, trying to decide which FPS shooter I should start allocating my free-time. There’s a long list of titles out there. I originally picked up Enlisted, because the marketing claims:

Enlisted is a squad-based first person MMO shooter covering key battles from World War II. The game carefully recreates weapons, military vehicles and the atmosphere of that era, while demonstrating really massive clashes of numerous soldiers, tanks and aircraft with artillery and naval support.

But the longer I’ve been here, from my perspective, the further the game has deviated from it’s marketing description.

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You mean like how roughly 3 days ago I was able to successfully mow down an entire paratrooper squad before they touched the ground? (Mounted MG but still, you get the point)

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I think Paras are a great addition and they add an extra avenue of gameplay. It’s chaotically fun. I’ve encountered them a few times over the past few days. Just a short while ago I was in the Pacific defending the point when I noticed Paras dropping east of my position and I thought to myself “Oh S#!%t” but in a good way. I was so into the match and pumped with adrenaline at how intense the battle was.

Of coarse I had my personal idea of how Paras could’ve been implemented. I thought they could’ve been basically a Sky Rally Point. The Radio Operator would get a new call in, Para Plane, and it would have to fly ways until it was over the battle for players to spawn, giving the enemies a chance to shoot them down, like bombers.

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What other titles? If you dont mind me asking.

I chose enlisted because after being a bf fan for 20 years, the franchise finally pissed me off with its direction.

Warthunder i have thoroughly enjoyed over 10 years, and that started out small, but kept growing. My hope is that enlisted will follow.

Not trying to change your mind, reading your posts, id say youve made up your mind.

And whoes to say you cant come back later and resume.

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I’m talking about real life paratroopers. Not the video game.

What do notice in all of the pictures that I provided in the OP?

All of those paratroopers were being deployed over open terrain (mostly large fields of grass)

Why did they do this? Because paratroopers went through months of grueling training, and the military could not risk having them injured by landing in trees, buildings, or anything that would snare their parachutes and leave the soldier dangling by it’s cords.

But in Enlisted, we have a single c-47 that flying directly into the middle of a battle (in broad daylight), and dropping a squad of soldiers ANYWHERE they want to land, as if they have modern technology to deploy elite soldiers PRECISELY where they want them and their gear to land.

In this case… a rooftop.

Which is unthinkable if you’re considering we’re playing a WW2 game, and paratroopers were relatively new in warfare.

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Bro you sound so salty just stop.

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I’m not sure yet, but I might start playing Battlefield 4 again, just because I’m a really good pilot and enjoy the competitive matches with FULL lobbies.

I get quite a thrill when I’m dog-fighting other attack helicopters. Tight maneuevers between buildings, narrow valleys, and mountains is whole lot of fun.

Likewise. I’ve been disappointed with what happened to the franchise. I tried BF5 and stopped playing the game after two matches (that’s when I decided to try Enlisted, and initially enjoyed that it was much more realistic than battlefield).

And BF 2042, I’ve never played it. Before it’s release, there was so much hype… But rather than pre-ordering, like so many people did… I sat back and waited for the game to release. And then I followed the player reviews as they came out. All I can say on the matter, is that I’m happy I saved my money and didn’t suffer the disappointment that others did.

I keep trying to play this game, but every time I put some time into it, and play a few matches… it’s simply not very fun anymore. Either the matches are empty and full of A.I squads, or the teams are stacked one-way-or-the-other, or there’s somebody exploiting something that entirely ruins the flow of the battle.
It was phosphorous… And now it’s paratroopers who can spawn whereever the hell they want.

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Just wait till it happens to youuuuuu.

Just wait till you’re having a really good match, and a paratrooper squad spawns ontop of the objective during a key moment in the battle, and ruins the entire match because you don’t even know they are there, safely in a place where you can’t get to them.

Once you make it inside your own objective, and see all the bodies on the ground… you take a bullet to the head.

Then you switch to your remaining soldier, and look up.
You see the guy staring at you, and take another bullet to your head.

By the time you respawn. Game over.

Just wait till it happens to you, and remember your own words :point_up:

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Congrats, you explained the situation. This is a video game, not everything will be the exact same as this is NOT A MILSIM AND IS NOT TREATED LIKE ONE

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Exactly. We’re no longer focused on historical accuracy. And now I want my Little Bird with gattling guns.
Where do we draw the line, if we can’t add helicopters with hellfire rockets now?

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Ah i see, while battlefield 4 was fun at the time, it too had stuff i loathed (like random dispersion, 3rd person vehicles). That killed gunplay for me.

But that game is long unsupported. It will never be anymore than it was left years ago. But hey, if you still enjoy it. Do it.

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I haven’t touched it for a couple years, and have no idea what it’s playerbase is currently like.
Since it’s free on the Xbox store, I believe the lobbies are still relatively healthy.

The next Diablo 4 game looks interesting. Have you watched the game trailer? It’s fucking gnarly.

I may get lost in Hell for awhile :rofl:

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My mates love the diablo franchise so ive seen alot of it. It does look cool. I just had other interests and no time to split.

Same situation. When I start a new game, I usually stick with it for awhile.
Enlisted has been that game, but as of recent, it’s been a disappointment.
I had high hopes for a long time, and now I don’t see a positive future for this title.
Whenever they introduce the next progression system, I feel like that’s going to make-or-break the entire game.

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Planetside 2 is pretty nifty if you’re into the whole sci-fi vibe. But it also has its own problems. No p2w though, that’s a guarantee. There’s also choppers :slightly_smiling_face:

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I second planet side 2. Amazing game. I just want a new one :slight_smile:

It wouldn’t be the same without that fat british bastard doing the shilling and the promotions. RIP TB.