It’s very difficult to consider anything with Enlisted’s system of VS weapons on low BR and AF on high BR, but for Pz IV family it’s quite possible:
Heres my take on this Excuse for a matchmaking system
If all my gear is BR1
And i wanna lets say play some ussr
I SHOULDNT HAVE TO FIGHT AGAINST BF110
PANZER 4 J OR ANYTHING FROM BR 3
THERE IS NO POINT IN HAVING BR 1 IF IT CHANGES NOTHING
THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY!
Skirts were added to protect from ATRs i think
And maybe some certain shells
Its funny because I don’t understand why anyone thinks this tank should be BR 4. The only arguments AGAINST it being put down to 3 are nonsensical and sound like salty whiny anti-germany players. It literally has no business being BR4, it does nothing in BR4!
I agree BR1 and 3 shouldn’t be matched in the current system but BR3 shouldn’t be matched against 5 either. They really need to either break it down further and add a BR6 that way it can be BR1-2 BR 2-3 BR 3-4 BR 4-5 and BR 5-6 unlike the current BR 1-3 and BR 3-5 nonsense we have now. Theres simply too much of a gap in tech right now.
I currently only play exclusively as a BR2 Germany because any time I put some BR3 gear in my lineup I end up facing BR5 players that I don’t have the tech tree unlocked for since I only recently returned to the game and BR4-5 feels like absolute cancer with the plane spam in an infantry game that has extremely limited AA options… Yet they give every single infantry squad member the ability to have an anti tank explosive pack AND Anti tank mine…and almost every squad can have a dedicated AT slot in it, lol.
there are reasons why it should be and why it shouldnt be in BR3 and BR4. also idk why you say it does nothing in BR4 when it can frontally pen all US and soviet tanks frontally from BR1 to BR5.
front pen in the tiniest machine gun port… not everyone that plays this game has memorized all weak points on tanks… get real. This tank sucks against even other BR3 tanks and dies extremely easy.
that is only for jumbo… rest can be normally penetrated either on turret or hull.
that is how any player that plays any tank against it on BR1-3 feels, not to mention there are tanks that cant pen it on those tiers. at least pz4 with long 75mm can penetrate all tanks on BR3-5
yes but no then we would have
20 ques us at each br set ussr japan and german that is five times four
T60 and m13 mgmc are only tanks that cant frontal pen panzer 4h. 37, 40 and 45mm can easily pen the turret
F2/G is literally the same as J and they are on BR3, just use those.
J should be on BR4 because it’s a last ditch late war model that belongs to late war setting.
F2 isn’t the same as it has less armour and the G is a Stalingrad access pack exclusive. So they’re not the same.
False, as Panzer IV J has 10 % better penetration than Panzer IV F2 / G.
This is important as Enlisted is a casual game - every tank explodes after 1- 2 hits or is 100 % indestructable.
1mm less? Add it in game values, for all I care.
It still plays identically against enemy tanks as J.
I am a Stalingrad access pack owner and I give my consent for G to be added to tech tree, if needed.
They all play identically against KV and T-34, don’t they?
In any case, regardless of any percentages or millimetres, as stated above the most important point is to not see last ditch (!) yellow (!) Pz J in early war maps.
Well you are not the only access pack owner. It was said to be exclusive so i think it would be unlikely to see it in tech tree
This statement is not true. Panzer 4 f2 can be frontally penned almost anywhere with soviet 45mm which is the most common cannon in low br. Panzer 4j in the other hand cannot be penned that easily.
You will need to aim for the turret
Also the allied 37 and 40mm cannons can pen f2s frontal plate
Yes. I think that they placed Panzer IV J in BR 3, because idiots were crying about KV-1 being too strong for BR 3:
KV1 obliterates BR 2 - Suggestions - Enlisted
Honestly - I dont play BR 1- 3, so I dont care 
Interesting. I never noticed any differences ingame during matches.
But well my personal take is that no matter the millimeters or degrees, if I was making a WW2 game and last ditch Pz IV J from 1944 appeared in Tunisia I would consider that a failure.
Yet another good reason for complete removal of Tunisia from the game.
Since we already have late war maps (Ardennes) in low BR queue. Moving Pz IV J up to high BR queue would be pointless.
What the hell are you on about? Tunisia has fun maps if you omit Kahif Caves.
Thanks, I guess. Let’s just pretend that the idiot is the one playing low BR levels and not the one NOT playing it but giving his “brilliant” opinion 
