Panzer III L confirmed?

Well isnt that the most important thing? Comparing it to its enemies to determine balance?

It is not comparable to T28 in any way. T28 is classic howitzer tank, which is equivalent to tanks like Pz IV.

J1 has no soviet equivalent, as Soviet only have T50 and T28 variants in TT (BR2)

Well. I hate to be that person, but the panzer III L was in the game from a long time. ( since 2020 to be exact )

It was also playable on spartanovka and some other mods

As goes for the game, no. I do not think so.
Promotional material isn’t always accurate or a depiction of whats to come.

Personally, i would love it.
Mostly because of nostalgia of this thing from red orchestra.

But it would be a br 3 vehicle most likely.
Event vehicle too probably. As tt does not necessarily need yet another PZ iii.
Although i could be wrong. Only time will tell.

Why does that matter when T28E beats Panzer III J1?

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If so T-50 gonna be trash in BRII.

T28E is overrated af, but okay.

I can’t see why they would introduce a vehicle or weapon known to have been used in ww2, given the track record.

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Ghost Division isnt bad, I just dont think it quite has the pizzazz of DAK

Not really tbh, T-28E is the best vehicle in BR2 in all nations, its ATR immune, will one shot anything it can face, a really good HE shell plus its magic MG turrets. Its even reasonable manoeuvrable considering how big it is as well.

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Jokes on you, lol.

T-28E is far from being best BR2 tank. It’s a giant box that can’t be overlooked + it dies in oneshot from just about everything. Not to mention the terrible gun depression it has, especially considering for how tall it is.

Its only luck is that Germany still doesn’t have something more armored in BR2/3 as TT vehicle.

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As is any tank that can be marked, mostly a moot point. AT guns are the only large guns that can be somewhat hidden.

Its extremely rare to die in oneshot, I mean it can die in oneshot but so can anything by that metric. Most of the time your MG turrets or spare crew absorb rounds for you.

Never really had an issue with its gun depression, the maps just arent setup in a way where that is an issue, not to mention if your really desperate for depression, you can quickly drive back and forth to rock the tank and gain a split second window to shoot lower.

Well that is the truth, that’s also the fact of the matter for the moment. Its a non-point.

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I don’t how to describe it english. But for me, there’s quite big difference in being hidden/to be overlooked.

So that’s not what I am talking about.

Well, of course in context of being put against competent player. That actually can think for himself and doesn’t shoot immediately once he sees green color on pen indicator.

Wut? Have you ever played any autumn Moscow map? There’s so many small annoying ridges that can troll T-28s way too often.

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I kinda get what you mean, maybe its just my mindset, but I never overlook any vehicle, if only for the fact its free points. Even relatively harmless vehicles like a Pz 2, thats a little XP pinata and it frees up teammates who would get hyperfixated on the tank to attack or defend the point instead.

Talk about a rare species.

Oh plenty, still never had issues, I find remaining mobile in it works best, the classic noob trap is just sitting back in it and greyzone camping, sure you get some kills in it, but its nothing compared to pushing the point, Ideally I like to be about 50-70m from the point, ideally keeping close to friendly infantry to stop TNT charges. Doesnt work with a BR3 uptier ofc but thats any tank vs panzerfausts.

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In context against average player of Enlisted. Everything is random and based purely on luck. Not very telling about quality the tank itself.

Yes, it’s so easy to counter any tank in greyzone as long as you can use your head.

To be sitting duck in tank is mark of incompetence.

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It’s already trash after armor correction, T-70 is just superior despite having just 2 guys

wrong it’s most versatile tank at BR2

It’s a tank that has very nicely put armor and only dies to one shots to very specific areas (vs APCBC). It’s hull MGs can tank multiple shells.

It’s armor power will get nerfed by a ton once PZ4E/F1 are going to get it’s HEAT shells but hey Soviets will also get T28 with APCBC rounds so we will be both one shotting each other.

Well they have their PZ3M but you rarely see them and they are really hard to kill when angled. With PZ3L then Soviet will be crying in pain and all move to BR3.

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Or the result of constant whining from the combined allied and soviet main playerbase that 50mm of armor is way to much to armor when they insist on wanting to shoot the most armored parts of the tank only.

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The pz3j has no problems with t28. The long barrel 50mm in the m and l model was quickly realized as inadequate.

Well its more that T28E has great survivability but in return one hit kills everything because of massive post pen damage.

By their stats both T28E and Panzer III J1 have the same armor, but their damage potential is different, which wouldn’t be all that problematic if both tanks would fill the same role - but T28E is a howitzer tank with good HE

I don’t see a problem with the 50mm armor of current tanks, but 70mm armor is too much for the Soviets, most of their tanks have less than 70mm penetration at 100 meters. (BT7A, T28E, T50,…)

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