any thoughts on this? You can clearly see that the tank behind the Panzer IV is actually a Panzer III L (same frontal armor as premium Panzer III M)
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I sure hope they won’t add it because Soviet mains whined about III N which only had 50mm frontal armour except on hull.
I’m afraid to imagine what cope they will come up with to have the L and my precious M (my favourite tank, I bought it in game as well) moved up to BR3 because of their 70mm frontal armour.
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I think it has been sitting in the editor for ages already.
It’s similar to Pz III M, so it will be pretty busted if it finally become available. I never even played the III N when it was available because I already had this beast.
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What would be the point of using J1 if L is going to make it into a game?
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The 3N was more an issue for HE spamming with good armour. At least the M8, Crusader and T-28E all had weaker armour. It was a complete seal clubber vehicle.
The 3N is in a good place atm imo, I use it as my main tank for BR3 germans, the issue for it atm is that it needs to lose the APHE for HE. There is no tank except the IS1 or Jumbo that would scare me in the 3N.
As for the 3L. It should be perfectly fine, it will be strong, but its a nice balance vs the great short 75 tank options at BR2. Still would rather see the Stug 3F moved down to BR2 though.
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None, but whats the point of using the M2A4 or M3 when you have the M5A1? Why ever use the Pz4 E if you have the Pz 4 F1? Why use the T-34 mod1940 if you have the T-34 mod1941? Its nothing new to the game, just a nice reward to people who research a folder, should folder the 3L behind the J1.
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Because it looks better
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I mean I would say thats subjective, but with the new DAK camo for it, in Tunisia at least yeah the E wins, my point still stands though.
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They’d probably add it to BR III as the first unlock. Just our luck . . .
Well whats the point of using J1 right now? Its kinda lacking behind.
I like the idea that Panzer IV and T28 have great anti infantry power and decent anti rank power, while 3L would be better armored and in general better at fighting vehicles - that being said, there must be some soviet vehicle that also fits this specific role, but the only next step from T28E I see is early T34
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Soviet tanks are just stupid to balance - they only have massive post pen damage, but bad penetration power, which always results in them being OP or useless. Isnt there any way to maybe switch ammo loads around a bit for Soviets? Like a vehicle with more pen for being uptiered but not nuke like post pen damage?
It’s the most versatile non premium tank at BR2 the German faction has atm.
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I like ghost division Pz IV E more.
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Well its pen is quite good for a BR2 tank, but HE, post pen and armor mean it will have less anti infantry power than T28E while at the same time T28E will take it out in one shot no matter where it hits. On paper Panzer III J1 is better at anti tank, but T28E damage profile, turrets that absorb post pen damage, large space inside the tank and big crew make almost every shot survivable with the ability to shoot back even after taking multiple good hits - which results in Panzer III J1 being dead in one shot, its the soviet curse of post pen damage.
Panzer IV is getting heat now - which seems like a reasonable buff, but Panzer III L will force soviet players to aim for weakspots, which will make them upset for sure.
Keep in mind - hitting a weakspot will still result in one hit kills, but not doing so will cause no damage.
Actually thinking about this… maybe massive howitzers should be required to aim for weakspots as a trade off to their post pen damage.
Or - to make Soviets happy the devs can always just remove Panzer III L frontal spare tracks armor, which will result in its lower chassis only having 50mm of armor.
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I have no clue why are you talking about T28E.
Because its Germanies top rival
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The only reason the T28 is so versatile is that it doesn’t face any armoured tanks.
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Well Crusader will go through Panzer III L no problem and M3 Lee will also penetrate it, but the main Soviet BR2 vehicle will have issues.
Well thats my whole point, when it faces armor (70mm Panzer III L) it will start having issues.
But I thought we are having discussion about J1, not T28