Why is the Panzer 4 H at BR 4 ? What makes it deserve this Battlerating ?
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because the sideskirts do work, and the turret traverse is significantly improved
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Because is Equal with the t3485 and Sherman 76
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It can be front pent by the Soviet 45 mm and 2 Pounder.
And easily side pent and destroyed by both of them.
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because Pz.IV G/J will become a joke if Ausf H is in br3
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They are not that different really. Just slightly faster turret traverse and side skirts that can stop ptrs 41. Also soviets have kv 1 which makes t34 a joke. Should kv 1 be removed from br 3?
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No why should Kv 1 be removed from Br 3?
and so the shermans and t34s can be penned by Pz III J, IV E, F1, F2 & G.
both from the front and sides
( with the J, you might wanna aim for the turret’s weak spots )
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Panzer IVs are already glass cannons on BR3, their armour protection is the same as the BR1 Panzer III J. I don’t see why the Panzer IV H would be so much better than Panzer IV J that would make it worthy for BR4.
Panzer IV H should be moved down to BR3 and Hetzer added to its spot in BR4.
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You mean the tiny spot above the track? And the tiny Spot on the turret ?
Makes sense there Br 3 like the Sherman and T 34.
Pz4H is already an ok tank so why not keep it in BR 4?
But what makes it deserve Br 4 ?
What makes it good enough to be on Br 4 ?
What makes it better than the Br 3 Panzer 4s ?
Why does it deserve to be dragged to Br 5 Hell ?
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its mobility is good,
Has anti AT screens
Canon is superior in BR 4-5 that can rip and tear KV-1s
If you use it as glass canon, then its op
and it can front pen IS 2 and pershing. also why not mention US m10 and m18 which are also glass cannons on BR4 or pershing on BR5.
why should any german long 75mm be in low br? they can destroy any low BR tank with one shot on almost any angle on any part of the tank.
because being in br3 means it can fight people in br1 and that’s just simply brutal
How is this cannon superior in BR5 with Panther, Tiger I and Tiger II around, not including TDs?
And I am pretty sure that at BR5 the deadliest enemy is shitty BR3 or BR4 KV1 and not IS and T-34-85.
Also, the KV1 can OHK the Panzer 4s with ease as well.
How is a glass cannon OP? Especially since even a T-26 can pen it.
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There are already like three or four long-barrel 75mm tanks in BR3 so I guess one more will not make it different.
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Sideskirts only work against ATRs and limited against EXPs.
There are also GO Panzer IV Js with skirts and the old premium Panzer IV Js I think also have sideskirts and additional track armor and they are still BR3.
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Thats why I am against Br 3 facing Br 1 and 2.
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i know… i was making argument to move them to BR4… m10 and m18 have even worse armor than pz4 with similar gun penetration and they are on BR4
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