no teamwork wins games
STG44 will be assault class only, VG15 is assault only
@10274996check this dudes screenshot out hes been spamming literally all day.
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None of that matters. I saw the campaign load out for the axis soldiers on Berlin, and I said no thanks. Since you decided to participate, jokes on you. I played 1 game on Berlin only. I’ll be waiting for Africa
This is a new screenshot
PPS yes, is fine, but the PPSh, no.
The PPSh-41’s have less recoil than the PPDs. While yes, you need to compensate for the higher rate of fire, it doesn’t change the fact that the recoil per shot is still lower while the damage is the same. (well, to be more accurate, the PPSh-41 with a box magazine has the same overall recoil as the tech tree PPD, and the PPSh-41 with drum mag has less both vertical and horizontal than the PPD)
PPSH is as strong as PPD the premium one, PPD has slightly more recoil but only because the premium guys had the reduce recoil perk
The PPSh is fine
Yes the recoil per shot is lower, but that’s completely irrelevant when you’re not going to be firing it in semi-auto most of the time. Hell other than the MP3008 none of the MPs can fire semi auto in Berlin so saying the per shot recoil is lower is moot.
But fired full auto or in bursts it is demonstrably much more than even the non-premium PPDs.
It has more climb than any of the German MGs in Berlin as well. Idk about the Beretta because I don’t play shitmandy and I’m not finished with either faction in Berlin.
There is no reason to nerf either the PPS or PPSh other than being a monkey.
I wouldn’t even touch the PPSh drum with anything other than maybe a bit longer reload and slower movement speed.
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Henlo /vg/ shitter
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What did you do to your gamma dude
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u can increase it in game option
I’m aware, but why did you dial it up like that
its to do with my sight and my eyes
Ah kk
Godspeed then 
i just unlock the Tank Destroyer and is now level 22.
Its worst than the Panther in every way, and good luck killing infantry with the MG, its so buggy
Very disappointed tbh. Ill go back to Grind Russia now since im done with German for the most part.
Yeah the 4/70 A is dogshit
Idk why they didn’t just add the normal IV/70
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Recoil per shot does matter if you fire in controlled bursts instead of spraying, it’s not only semi-auto that matters in recoil per shot.
Again, zero reason to nerf the PPS.
The PPSh on the other hand… I mean, it’s absolutely superior to the PPD. Recoil per second for the PPSh-41: 233, PPD: 225. It’s not that much more in a per second sense to control. at 16 rounds per second for the PPSh-41 and 15 rounds per second for the PPD, let’s assume 3-5 round bursts, so average at 4. That’s a .26 second burst for the PPD, and a .24 second burst for the PPSh-41, which seems about right to me. The PPD experiences 60 points of vertical recoil, and the PPSh-41 experiences 56. The PPSh-41 also experiences 8 points less horizontal recoil. Even if we push things up to a half second burst, and thus push things to 7 rounds fired from the PPD, and 8 rounds fired from the PPSh-41, that’s 105 to 112 vertical, 56 to 48 horizontal.
The main reason the premium PPD feels so much better is because of the recoil perk. The tech tree version is absolutely inferior to the PPSh-41, both by the math, and in my subjective opinion having picked off guns from dead soldiers enough times at this point, even if I have yet to reach the requisite level on the soviet side in the campaign.
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So it’s nearly negligible.
The PPSh should absolutely outperform the PPD-40 since it was a better gun
There is no reason to touch it. You could honestly go for nerfing the PPD’s recoil a bit because it had no muzzle brake or compensator like the PPSh or the PPS do.
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The box PPSh-41 has more than double the TTK/damage/recoil efficiency of it’s German counterpart, the Mp35/l, as does the regular PPSh-41 vs the Beretta 38.
If we’re talking about nerfing German LMGs’ recoil to bring them in line with the LMGs of soviets and allies, (albeit still having them be above average), the PPSh and PPD need to get the same treatment, with 4-8 added points of overall recoil to each of the four.
Lol?
Lol
This isn’t a “If we balance this broken thing then we get to pick something of yours to kneecap” dude
And adding recoil to the German MGs while standing is a halfassed solution when the real one is to remove the ability to ADS while standing from LMGs across the board since that was not how they were used.
Like I can get behind a small bump in recoil for the PPDs, but past that it’s just meaningless nerfs to appease German players.