Overaul of infantry MGs mechanics

[RougeMo]

@VoyoMayPL

0. Make maps more MG-friendly
   While maps are not directly conected with MGs, their design process needs to change a bit. Often times I’m in a situation where I’m in a great shooting position but because of some props (like chairs, dressers) or rubble, I can’t mount my MG or it’s firing arc makes it unusable.
   While making cover/shooting positions, map designers must take into account that some players will want to mount their guns there. Of course not every place needs to be MG-friendly but this is very important thing to keep in mind.

I agree with the idea however, you could use certain areas and find a suitable area to set up a machine gun position. I always do this when I prefer to use my MG42 instead of the heavy MG. It can work effectively, as long as you find a suitable position for it.

There are some good areas in Moat East were you can build a MG friendly position yourself. Either dig a quick foxhole/trench. Or put some sandbags around to cover yourself from enemy fire and an ammo box nearby. Keeping your engineer alive is very important. Apologies if that was a little off topic, but overall, I agree with your statement.

[TheUnclaimedOne]

So my main problem is that on most objectives, there never seems to be a “good” line of sight to mow down incoming attackers. You either must leave objective and find a spot or make a spot, or don’t mount down on a line of sight and remain mobile. It’d be nice if kill lanes and good lines of sight for incoming attackers were available ON OBJECTIVE

[TheUnclaimedOne]

@VoyoMayPL

1. It’s possible to use it for mounting the gun and have decent firing angles
   
   bad firing angle type 1
   
   bad firing angle type 2
2. It’s possible to go prone near it and mount the gun and have decent firing angles
   
3. There is some other place nearby that fits either point 1 or 2

You sir are an artist. Lol

[TheUnclaimedOne]

@VoyoMayPL

To where?
If I’m in a building and I can’t use the only window because of some bed or other couch blocking it, I don’t want to exit the safety of the building and go prone on the middle of a road.

ErikaKalkbrenner:

If that window is even any good for looking for advancing forces in the first place

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

Well, that’s definitely a start and more straightforward

[Blogaugis]

@VoyoMayPL

Make maps more MG-friendly

Now that I think about it, after reading the discussions here - maybe the suboptimal nature for mounting is good enough, but we need to give the soldiers ways to create mountable areas and cover?
I think engineers should be given more incentives to build sandbags and other things, but other blokes should also be able to do something (we have shovels, but they are a bit cumbersome to use), like, picking that chair/couch/table and putting it down in a useful spot.
It’s a bit like - do we want to allow player to be creative in terms of making cover, or, make it more a tournament and basically get the mapmakers to optimize it? I am a bit leaning on giving players more options to interact with environment (but oh boy, console blokes are gonna be in a bad place with their limited controls).

[TheUnclaimedOne]

You’re welcome

[robihr]

@VoyoMayPL

Make maps more MG-friendly
While maps are not directly conected with MGs, their design process needs to change a bit. Often times I’m in a situation where I’m in a great shooting position but because of some props (like chairs, dressers) or rubble, I can’t mount my MG or it’s firing arc makes it unusable.
While making cover/shooting positions, map designers must take into account that some players will want to mount their guns there. Of course not every place needs to be MG-friendly but this is very important thing to keep in mind.

this is much deeper problem than just making map MG friendly. they need to make bipod mounting more flexible. e.g. i want to mount bipod on an incline, but i can only mount it while prone, giving it limited angle upwards, but if i could crouch mount bipod on same spot i could fire downwards.

[VoyoMayPL]

@VoyoMayPL

Different lengths of amunition belts

I just realised that addition of stinger with 200 rounds means this probably won’t happen as it would be a masive change to the content already in game.
I guess we can’t have nice things.