I’m not sure what you mean here. Could you elaborate?
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LMG’s had absolute shit accuracy as your idea of “weapon accuracy” is spraying it across the map.
So according to your logic there was absolutely no reason to nerf them as they had shit accuracy.
Or they are just idiots (M24, Jumbo, P3B, BA-11…)
Anyway it would still justify comparing them cause they are “special”.
Tell me more.
My thoughs in a nutshell: German MGs vs. Allied MGs are fine. German tanks vs. Allied tanks are fine (except Berlin but fuck Berlin anyway). German planes vs. Allied planes are fine. German SMGs vs. Allied SMGs are fine.
Hypocrital ^^
Who fucking cares about guns? Germans have a advantage in a certain area, the Allies have a advantage in a certain area. There are no bloody “twice-good” or OP guns on only one faction. Otherwise we would face one-sided win ratio or unfair team setups. Yet neither Normandy or Moscow have it (fuck Berlin. Beta-Berlin was a deathbirth from the beginning) or at least I never saw anyone who wasnt flaming complaining about it (or there is a unfair balance but the weaker side just doesnt care who knows).
It all depends on maps, player/skill and to some extend luck.
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If you use them like AR, yes. If you use them properly, nothing changed so I don’t see the problem.
It wasn’t nerf but more of a putting LMGs to where they belong to.
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Why would you care ? According to your “Weapon accuracy” theory it was completely useless shit.
“Oh guys the guns are completely fine you are just using it wrong way”
“Here have a screenshot to prove my point about accuracy while I spray & pray like a complete fking idiot because thats definitely NOT wrong way of using the gun”
Good come back cupcake good one.
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Their accuracy wasn’t changed at all. Now you will get the same results in said accuracy test as before the “nerf”.
But do you know what was changed? Firing while moving. It’s not really a nerf, it’s an addition of a new mechanic that causes LMGs to be used like LMGs.
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Even better, I had to test your “gun accuracy” and it pretty much proves how ineffective the LMG’s are and was. So infact LMG users should be granted alot more accuracy and very least twice the running speed compared to others to compensate the horrible accuracy of LMG’s.
I wish there was way to determine accuracy but this is exactly how guns are tested IRL too.
Accuracy when you use LMGs like an idiot:
Accuracy when you use LMGs properly:
(Also take into consideration that I’m bad-average player so my aim isn’t the best.)
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I specifically spoke about the weapon accuracy which you mentioned earlier, so Im not sure what are you trying to prove with your screenshots ?
I’m trying to show that you use weapon incorrectly and blame the game. It’s not skill, it’s using your brain to figure out what weapon should do which task. You can’t complain that shotgun can’t snipe, can you.
Skill is: controlling your weapon, map knowledge etc. Things that you improve by playing the game more and more.
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Im still pretty sure I spoke specifically about the “Weapon accuracy” which according to you is determined by spraying.
It is determinated by spraying, but:
- without a recoil (sadly all we can do is to try to control recoil to emulate this)
- while not moving, jumping etc.
- in a weapon specific environment (for example you can’t hipfire AT rifle)
I thought you just said controlling the weapon is skill, so idk how does that fit to your
“weapon accuracy”
Definitely didnt need to.
Not really sure why but ok.
This is now slightly confusing, as I pointed out the exactly same to the assumed friend of yours that spraying like a retard isnt exactly a way to determine weapons accuracy.
Where you replied that spraying is indeed a good way to determine weapon accuracy.
And as Im now doing these scientifically proven weapon accuracy tests they are magically all wrong and shouldnt be sprayed like a retard.
So its completely fine to spray PPD to get crappy as possible accuracy as thats “weapon accuracy”
But doing same “scientifically proven weapon accuracy test” with lmg its entirely retarded ?
Did I forget something ?
Controlling weapon is a skill and that’s why accuracy tests should be done without recoil. But as it’s impossible to do in game now, we have to emulate this by controlling the recoil.
Don’t behave like a retard unless you are one. I’m sure you can clearly see difference between testing weapon accuracy (spray without recoil) and testing weapon recoil (spray with recoil).
Stop acting like you don’t see the difference.
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Ah gotcha, so my test with PPD is wrong because I did play like a normal human being and controlled the recoil by bursting as I instead should have sprayed like a retard to get bad as possible accuracy because we dont want soviet guns to seem too good or something like that ?
Well one could argue its quite retarded to even speak about this “weapon accuracy” if you dont even have a way to determine it as you said.
Dont get me wrong Im definitely not saying your argument / suggestion is retarded to start with as this is indeed the way weapons accuracy is tested IRL too.
In the army we even closed our eyes while spraying to get the maximum “weapon accuracy” without too much of human interference.
You were testing weapon accuracy in bursts that are unreliable in lenght. Actually you could do a macro with 3s long burst, then it would be possible to use it to compare weapons.
But still it’s not overall accuracy, it’s burst fire accuracy.
I agree. But we have to work with what we have.
Sigh the petition:
And I was doing EXACTLY by your rules the “Weapon accuracy” test on LMG but apparently it became retarded.
One could wonder is there little bit double standards here.
It looked like you just let the recoil do whatever it wants.
You didn’t even score 1 hit where the first shot always hits close to the point you aim at. Or at least that’s my experience.
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Ah so thats where it went wrong damn it. So its completely reliable way to determine PPD accuracy by using it like an absolute retard.
But german LMG you have to use like a proper humanbeing to get reliable “weapon accuracy” test ?
Should we also add that if any allied weapon is more accurated or in anyway better than german weapon its automaticly flawed test ? I mean that would remove alot of misconceptions.
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