New Weapons for Different Countries in Enlisted Part 2

I’m offering New Weapons for different countries in Enlisted
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Ishapore No.1 MkIII Shotgun
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Ishapore 2A / 2A1 rifle

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No, this is a 1963 pattern of Lee-Enfields produced to fire the 7.62 NATO cartridge, neither this gun or the ammunition it is intended to fire existed during WW2.

Edit: Removed my oppinion No. 1 Mk III shotgun, until I can find out more about it.

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An original caliber ammunition was created specifically for this weapon.410 (10.2 mm)
single-shot smoothbore shotgun

OH SHOTGUN

I completely missed that.

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I still stand by the A2 though.

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In 1916, the SMLE Mk III* (Short Magazine Lee-Enfield Mark III*) caliber magazine rifle was adopted by the British Army.303 (7.7x56 R mm), which was renamed Rifle No.1 Mk III* in 1926. India, which had been in colonial dependence on Great Britain for many years, made extensive use of various types of British weapons and equipment produced both in England and in India itself. In particular, the No.1 Mk III* rifle was manufactured at the Indian RFI arsenal (Rifle Factory Ishapore).

However, the No.1 Mk III* army magazine rifle was not suitable for use by the Indian police. Then, in the second half of the 1920s, the designers of the RFI arsenal in Ishapur converted it into a single-shot smoothbore rifle. The rifled barrel was subjected to cylindrical drilling to a caliber .410, the magazine shaft was silenced with a neatly fitted mahogany bar, and the sight was fixed for firing at a distance of 200 yards (182 m).

The rifle, designed to arm police and security units, was named “Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk III*.410”, and after India gained independence in 1947 — "Police Indian musket cal. .410». This weapon was a conversion (converted) model of the No. 1 Mk III* rifle, and was usually made from combat samples with worn barrels.

An original caliber ammunition was created specifically for this weapon.410 (10.2 mm), which received the designation .410 Indian Musket or .410 Mark 1. This cartridge was made by rolling out the muzzle of a standard cartridge case.303 British, used in the No.1 Mk III rifle*. Caliber bullets or buckshot were inserted into the cylindrical sleeve. At the same time , a hunting cartridge .The 410 caliber was not compatible with the cartridge .The 410 is an Indian Musket and could not be used in an Indian shotgun.

Structurally, the No.1 Mk III* .410 shotgun was a hand-reloading weapon with a longitudinally sliding rotary bolt design developed by the Enfield Arsenal. The shutter handle is located in its rear part and bent downwards. The bolt was locked with two firing stops in its rear part, which were included in the cutouts of the receiver. The bolt had a fixed warhead screwed into its body with a protrusion in the front part on the right, which housed the extractor tooth.

The trigger mechanism mounted in the bolt is a firing pin. The descent is two—stage, with a warning. The firing pin was cocked when the bolt was closed. The safety lock in the form of a rotary lever is located on the left side of the receiver, in its rear part, and was conveniently operated with the thumb of the right hand without changing the grip and butt of the weapon. The bore is cylindrical drilled.

The weapon was loaded with ammunition through the upper window in the receiver with the bolt open, one round at a time. The mechanical aiming devices consisted of a sector sight and a front sight. The sector sight was marked from 200 to 2000 yards, but the rear sight clamp was fixed at the “200 yards” position. The rear sight was protected from external damage by strong rounded “wings”. The front sight with sheer sides is protected from external damage by strong “wings” that make up one whole with a massive forearm tip.

The sturdy stock consisted of a stock and a forearm. The lightweight stock had a straight neck, turning into a slightly pronounced semi-pistol grip at the rear, and was attached to the receiver with a long, strong longitudinal screw extending from the butt plate to the receiver guard. The metal back plate is equipped with a door that covers the accessory compartment. The forearm and the two-part barrel guard covered the barrel up to the muzzle, protecting it from damage, and the tip of the forearm contained an open muzzle, a bayonet bracket and a hook for forming a pyramid. The weapon had no ramrod. A rope wipe worn in the stock was used to clean and lubricate the bore.

The reason for the use of such guns and ammunition by Indian police and guards was the specifics of architecture in Indian settlements — Hindu houses, in accordance with the climate, were made of lightweight materials like plywood and arranged in a pile. A live bullet .The 303 British was able to blast through an entire Indian village. Therefore, the British authorities quite reasonably came to the need to arm police officers and guards with smoothbore weapons using “police” ammunition. A non—standard cartridge, in addition to a reduced damaging effect, also had an important property - when stealing police cartridges or weapons, criminals received a well-known problem of the discrepancy between these non-standard cartridges and hunting weapons.410 caliber.

Another reason for using the over-compressed sleeve of a standard English cartridge, as usual, was explained by purely technological aspects — to manufacture a shotgun, in fact, it was only necessary to minimally drill the bore. In this case, neither the combat larva nor the receiver required plumbing work, which had a positive effect on the cost of the product. In addition to the noted features, the Indian policeman’s rifle, except for the absence of a protruding magazine, did not differ from a combat rifle, which gave a certain confidence to the fighter and more effectively affected the psyche of his opponent.

Production of Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk III* .410 rifles / Police Indian musket cal. The .410 was discontinued in the late 1940s, but it was used by the Indian police for decades after that.

Technical Characteristics of shotgun No.1 MkIII*

Caliber: .410
Weapon length: 1132mm
Barrel length: 640 mm
Weight without cartridges: 3.8 kg

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Alright, well that’s more interesting, good technical and historical information to go along with it, certainly an interesting read!

However, there are some problems with this gun being added to the game:

  1. Even at BR 1, a single shot shotgun would be incredibly lackluster, it wouldn’t do anything other than be a meme weapon, one that would be used/tested as it came out and then virtually forgotten after a week. When it comes to greater subfaction representation (such as for India) I don’t think it’s entierly fair to add meme weapons for them, it wouldn’t give them the space they otherwise rightfully deserve.

  2. And this is more about the real world problems: It’s a police weapon, so it’s not meant for military use, I don’t see this being added the same way I don’t expect civilian market pistols in the United States to be added, it’s outside the scope of the game. Even prototypes at least have the qualifier of being intended for military use.

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