New Tanks That Will Balance Out the Jumbo Without Causing Too Much Power Creep

I’m arguing for it to be removed btw
It doesn’t belong and neither does the M2 since neither were there
But by no means are the PzIV, PzIIIM, or Puma unable to kill it frontally.

Are you being homophobic?

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okay sry then, but the answer is always yes, ofc.

Does that matter tho?

Yes I’d say it does when a good deal of anti-jumbo posting isn’t about the fact that it wasn’t there and just “i can’t pen it WTFFF”

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The Jumbo is 100% OP, no need to have any argument, yet you say ppl should stop complaining cuz “you can kill it”

but this “can” is so far away from a good balance that its just straight up ridiculous not to agree with the ppl yelling Jumbo nerf.

So you are for the removal of the jumbo, but still you say “ppl should learn to play” and " Jumbo is not that difficult to deal with" axis players are just crying"? You sir are picking both main arguments from both sides. like wtf is up with you ? im confused…

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The jumbo is both ahistorical and is not placed up against a balanced counter. Just because Axis tanks can kill it from the side doesn’t change the fact that it not only does it not have a place in the normandy campaign historically, but the Panzer 4H is very much not the closest equivalent that the Axis team would realistically have to be it’s counterpart.

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Mailslotting a tank like the Jumbo or some in Moscow isn’t hard at all and is what must be done.

It’s not far away at all
Shoot below the gun or the MG port. There’s also parts on either side of the mantlet that are pennable.
German tankers always cry about shit like this because they’re used to just railgunning things like in War Thunder
It IS harder to kill than the base M4A2 because you can’t just railgun it, but it is nowhere near invincible unless you outright lack the ability to redirect your mind from “shoot center mass to receive kill”
I don’t know if I could even bring myself to say its outright unbalanced because I haven’t ever had an issue killing them aside from trying and failing to MG port it with my PzIIIN
Switched to the Puma and started doing it just fine.

They’re free to add the Jumbo to a later Western Front campaign where it belongs and has proper counters.
But I’m not going to sit on the sidelines and let goobers shit and cry that its utterly invincible when I’ve killed them for years with shitboxes in WT and continue to do so here.

Last thing I would like to see in this game, are fireflys and achillies in Normandy.

For no reasons ever they should be introduced in Normandy.
the panther D should have been against the jumbo already as both can pen each other.

Weather for tank hunters, well, I don’t have much to say, Germans tank hunters for the majority are open top. So, I don’t know. And for the Americans, those are thinner, but could work fine

I mean so long as they give the Americans better shells they could pen each other. But currently the Jumbo would not be able to pen the Panther frontally no matter where it shoots it.