New players will quit Normany because of tanks

But next I want a super Pershing vs tiger II.

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Not the same class of tank. Yeah, the m10 and M4A3E8 can kill a tiger, but the m5 and m8 CAN’T. Heavy tanks just shouldn’t be in this game, too much to try to balance.

Scrap panther and Jumbo, give us M4A3E8 and Add another Panzer IV

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you know the only good thing about jumbo was it’s armor?

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I think the KT and Super Pershing is too good for Normandy - let it be exclusive to Berlin (about KT). I wish Normandy would stop with the later tanks.

Partly yes, but I don’t want another Pz4, I’m sick of them. Besides, Pz4 H is the latest and best modification, nothing else to get. I came here to play iconic tanks, not 3-4 versions of Pz4.

does not help mid tiers though.

so once again, no.

i see this one alot, but yes and no.

they theorically can, but they are not gonna earn much since who started, has squads made out of 4/5/3 guys… so… they will not get shit ton of xps. it’s much better going to mid max tiers since you will find more people to kill there.

nothing has really ever been replaced in this game ( outside CBT and CAT Phases so… )…

ain’t gonna happen

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Armor and a fast firing gun. Everything you need to delete infantry with no care in the world for enemy tanks.

Jumbo used to have a counter: bombers.
Panther would have had a counter: bombers.

But bombers have been turned into complete garbage in a campaign where most maps are completely open and provides a huge advantage to tanks.

But disingenuous farmers (and the forum is filled with them) kept defending trash like nerfing bombers and keeping in the Jumbo even though it took no part in Normandy. And this is what you get for it: a counter for the Jumbo.

Jumbo is still BAR NONE, the best tank to kill infantry with in the game: excellent HE, excellent armor, and fast firing rate. Very resilient to grenades.

Panther is average against infantry. Slow and clumsy, slow to reload, average HE round. Very slow reverse speed. And against the jumbo, you still need to aim for the machine gun port and tiny weakspots in the turret. With the Jumbo, unless you are an extremely bad player (which most people complaining about the Panther absolutely are), you should have no issue taking out the Panther’s gun. Without the gun, and with so much open space, you have virtually no possibility to repair your Panther without getting murdered by something.

But, most people posting here, obsessed about extremely daft game balance ideas which benefits their farming habits would keep harping about the stupidity that is the Jumbo tank and bombs which are no batter than explosive packs.

Frankly, you have earned this, and the irony is so thick you can cut it with a knife.

Meanwhile, I am amazed by the hypocrisy of some people being extremely bad at this game and recommending with sheer intellectual dishonesty buffs and nerfs which address their inability to learn how to counter something like Panther and keep dying and complaining how Jumbo is no longer ridiculously overpowered, and something needs to be done to return to the status que, where the US had some sort of armored vehicle with which extremely bad players used to perform well in.

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It’s gun maybe quickfiring but it’s ap round do fuck all and will have issues with penetration, so yes jumbo is balance because it’s gun isn’t the greatest, it’s slow as hell, and the only good thing is it’s armor and quicker reaction time because of a better turret drive. Oh also panthers horse power per ton and maximum speed is much better than jumbos

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Jesus, finally someone realized that the Jumbo is still extremely armored, in addition, much better against infantry. than any other tank in Normandy.
I’m tired of alone proving it and saying what the Axis put up with all summer.

It does not matter how the AP round is since, unless you are extremely bad, you should know how to be completely immune to any gun from the front, even against the Panther. And it is just a matter of time until you can kill any enemy tank by a thousand cuts, even the Panther by taking out its gun and forcing its crew out to repair it. And since that tank is super slow in reverse, getting into a safe spot to repair literally takes it out of the game.

Jumbo was never balanced. It is an idiot-proof tank, and it is still amazing against infantry, you just cannot kill every single tank you see without anymore. It took absolutely no skill to do well in it, now you need just enough iq to figure out that you can take out the Panther gun in 1-2 shots, and you can be immune to its gun if you angle. It is still overpowered for what it is, and absolutely needs to be removed from the Normandy campaign in which it did not take part in.

All I have to say to people who still unironically complain Jumbo is not balanced cough overpowered cough enough to make up for their lack of skill is: I am sorry but you really need to l2p.

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yeah that armor sure holds up in the playing field, sure does hold up…oh wait you don’t want too much armor in the playing field, you want speed instead



shot to the side, the panther would havebeen just as punctured

The 76 can barely pen the Panther’s mantlet because it has nowhere near the pen it has in WT and its on a dogshit carriage, so no its not really the same
Panther is also fantastic vs infantry and tanks whereas the Jumbo is only strong vs Infantry
I’d have been much happier with a Sherman Firefly tbh

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Congrats! You killed completely clueless tankers or bots by shooting the sides of a Jumbo. It is really not my problem players are extremely bad. That is not how balance works, bud.

I do great in the Jumbo. 100 kills per game on average, with peaks of 200+ kills. In spite of panthers.

Again, the irony of defending the existence of the jumbo and now complaining about the Panther.

The intellectual dishonesty is through the roof.

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Don’t forget to add that those Jumbo players didn’t have a chance as M72 can’t pen the PzIIIN!

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Let me help you with that, because that is exactly how Germany felt like before Panther was added:

The PZ IV’s 75 can barely pen the Jumbo’s tiny mg port because it has nowhere near the pen it has in WT and its on a dogshit carriage, so no its not really the same
Jumbo is also fantastic vs infantry and tanks whereas the PZ IV is only strong vs Infantry
I’d have been much happier with a Jumbo being relaced by M4 Easy 8 tbh

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›No u
Thanks for utterly invalidating anything you say in the future lmfao
Even @5537424 did a 180 and started making coherent posts that genuinely added to the discussion

Yes, FireFly maybe. I don’t mind. However, the jumbo is still the best anti-personnel tank and can stay on the battlefield for a very long time to change the course of the match. Panther is worse against infantry in every way.
Hopefully new levels soon. I still want to ride the Tiger E because in no other campaign does it have a chance to show up and the allies can get their Firefly.

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I want coax overheat GONE

I want my fucking IS-2 and KT P in Berlin dude
I’ve been waiting over a year for those